Sacramento Appraisal Blog

How much does a previous purchase matter to appraisers?

August 28, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 19 Comments

How much does a previous purchase matter? Do appraisers give strong weight to the purchase price? Or do they completely ignore it? This is an important conversation, especially in the midst of so much talk about the market changing.

1) Meaningless: Sometimes a previous purchase is meaningless. That’s not always happy news, but if a property sold for too little or too much, it just might not mean much to us today. As an example, it doesn’t make sense to give any real value weight to a short sale that closed way too low or an inflated purchase that was clearly disconnected from the market and not supported by data.

2) Strong weight: If a property sold recently and it was a reasonable price, appraisers might actually give strong weight to the sale. If you didn’t know, appraisers are actually allowed to use a previous sale of the subject property as a “comp” in an appraisal report too (usually Comp #4). That might seem strange to do, but then again what is more comparable than the subject property itself? Of course let’s be careful about understanding exactly how the market and property have changed since the sale though.

3) Someone overpaid: One thing we have to consider before giving too much weight to a previous sale is whether it was a reasonable representation of value or not at the time. It can be dangerous to blindly accept a sale without understanding the full story of why it sold at the level it did. On that note, my observation is at times cash buyers fall prey to overpaying on the higher end of the market where comps are a little more sparse and it’s not always easy to see value. Here’s an example I just tweeted about this morning:

4) Seeing the context: Sometimes a previous purchase is an incredible way to understand how a property fits into the market. In the graph below I have three previous sales in the Stollwood area of Carmichael, and each time the subject property competed at about the same price position. That’s powerful, right? So in this case I would likely give strong weight to the previous sales because they help me understand value.

FYI: Here is a tutorial if you want to learn how to make a graph like this.

Quick closing thoughts:

1) The temptation: It’s easy to get stuck on a previous purchase price and not see the current market because we think, “It has to be worth at least X amount because it sold for Y amount in the past.” Be careful of that. We have to be objective by giving the most weight to the current market.

BIG POINT: As some wonder if the market will make a big turn at some point, this conversation could be very relevant if that did happen.

2) Ch-ch-ch-change: The market could have changed since the subject sold previously. Values could have increased or softened. The subject could have been in better or worse condition too.

3) Different trends: Sometimes I hear things like, “It sold in 2016 and the market has increased 15% since then, so it must be worth 15% more now.” The problem is market trends aren’t the same at every price level. Maybe the lowest prices in town have seen increases like that, but price changes could be more subtle at higher levels. So let’s be cautious not to project a more aggressive trend from a lower range on a higher one.

4) Distressed: I find looking to older sales from the foreclosure days isn’t all that helpful because the market was not normal then and properties were selling all over the place. I usually recommend researching previous sales, but when they’re from the distressed days we often have to take them with a grain of salt. The same thing is true for stuff that sold in 2005 at inflated prices.

5) Boldness: Appraisers and agents sometimes have to tell clients why value is actually lower than a prior purchase. That’s not always easy to hear, but we have to be bold and let the numbers speak rather than putting weight on a previous sale that might not reflect the market today.

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

Questions: Which point stands out to you the most? Any stories to share or other points? I’d love to hear your take

If you liked this post, subscribe by email (or RSS). Thanks for being here.

When sellers expect buyers to pay for solar

August 21, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 36 Comments

Sellers often expect buyers to pay the full cost of a solar system. So they say, “I spent $30,000 on this system, so let’s price it $30,000 higher.” I get the sentiment, but is it reasonable? Let’s talk about it.

This isn’t a “how to value” solar post, but a conversation focused on some logical points that might help sellers see why buyers often don’t pay the full cost of an owned solar system in the resale market.

1) Location: I don’t doubt the value of solar, but I do doubt the market always recognizes the full cost of solar in the resale market. If a solar salesman says the value is always the same as the cost of the system, that sounds like a great sales pitch. Is it real though? Does it work in Alabama, Missouri, and Antarctica? Is it the same for a $75,000 house compared to $850,000? Probably not.

2) Dollar for dollar: It’s always the dream in real estate to get buyers to pay dollar for dollar for any home improvement done by sellers, but that’s not so easy to pull off. Even if you look at Remodeling Magazine’s 2018 Cost vs. Value Report, hardly any items on the list give close to a 100% return compared to the cost. Of course solar is different because it saves money, but there still might be a principle here worth considering.

3) Age of the system: Imagine a solar system that is built to last 20 years, and it’s now 5 years old. An owner says, “I know the system isn’t new, but I paid $40,000 for it, so a buyer should pay $40,000 too.” That’s a nice thought, but the system is 25% used up already, so why would a buyer pay the full cost of a brand new system? It would be like saying, “I realize my car is 5 years old, but I want you to pay the sticker price from the dealer because that’s what I paid.”

4) Rebates: Were there any rebates when the owner purchased the solar system? For instance, if there was a $5,000 rebate for a $25,000 system, that means the real cost of the system was $20,000. This is important because why would a buyer pay $25,000 if the seller technically paid $20,000? Moreover, newer systems are bound to be more efficient and maybe even less expensive, so why pay full cost for an older system?

5) Savings: Imagine an owner saves $150 per month on her energy bill for a solar system that cost $25,000. In this situation at $150 per month it would take 14 years to save the full $25,000. Would buyers pay upfront for 14 years worth of savings to keep $150 per month in their pocket? Are buyers even going to be in the property that long? Let’s remember the benefit of solar is realized over the course of two decades, so paying for all of that benefit in one instance may not reflect what most buyers are willing to do.

6) HUD solar programs: A home owner told a Realtor friend that HUD allows appraisers to add the cost of a solar system into the value. That sounds like an awesome idea, but it isn’t true. Appraisers don’t have a mandate from HUD or Fannie Mae to handle solar by adding the cost of the system to the value. What is true though is FHA allows owners and buyers to add solar on a purchase or refinance and get a loan (in some cases) for the full cost of the energy improvements. See page 453-454 in the HUD manual.

The puzzle of solar: This isn’t a post to explain how to value solar, but I hope some of the points above might bring perspective. In short, valuing solar is like a puzzle. We have to look to many pieces for the answer, so we’ll check out comps, consider the cost and age of the system, be in tune with how much money is saved each month, etc… If you think it would be useful, I can do a follow-up Q&A post about valuing solar (let me know).

I hope that was helpful.

Class I’m teaching: On September 17 I’m teaching my favorite class called “How to think like an appraiser“. I’d love to see you there.

Questions: What do you think of the points? Anything to add? What advice would you give to sellers expecting buyers to pay the full cost of solar?

If you liked this post, subscribe by email (or RSS). Thanks for being here.

How would you know if the market was starting to tank?

August 14, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 28 Comments

Is the market starting to tank? Or is it just a seasonal slowing? I’m getting asked this question all the time, so I wanted to share some thoughts. Then I have a big local market update for anyone interested.

How would you know if the market was sliding? I wish this was a 10-second answer, but it’s a big conversation, so let’s unpack some thoughts.

1) Change in inventory: It’s normal for housing inventory to increase as a market begins to cool for the season, but when a market starts to make a big turn we’d likely notice new listings aren’t being absorbed and the number of listings keeps growing beyond a normal pace.

2) Change in sales volume: Sales volume usually slows down as the market cools, but during a big shift we’d expect to see a more substantial change in sales volume over time. I’m talking about a market where buyers put on the brakes and properties stop selling. Currently in many areas throughout the country we’re seeing some smaller changes in sales volume. Could it be the start of something? Sure. But in my mind we need more time to see if this is a consistent pattern or just a slower end of the year.

3) Word on the street: What are people saying? How does the market feel in the trenches? We can learn so much when talking with informed local buyers, sellers, agents, appraisers, and other real estate professionals. Ask things like, “What are you seeing out there?”, or “What’s the market doing?” This is important because before we see a change in stats we’ll hear of change in the trenches. As an FYI, here’s a Twitter poll from a few days ago.

4) Less pendings: When a market starts to slide we can expect to see less pending sales, which is a big sign of waning demand. Let’s just remember though around this time of year we usually see fewer pendings as the market cools. This means we have to be cautious about saying the market is crashing just because pendings soften. My advice? Look for abnormal changes beyond a regular seasonal dip in pending sales.

5) Price changes aren’t the big issue: When a market shifts directions we often look to prices to tell us if things are changing, but it takes time for prices to catch up with the trend. For example, in Sacramento in 2005 we saw housing inventory triple and sales volume drop 43% in one year. Yikes! Those are insane stats, but price changes weren’t all that dramatic during this time period.

6) Other metrics: Lots of experts say to watch the number of new homes built as an indicator of the market changing. That’s huge. Others say it’s the GDP or economy, easy credit, housing affordability index, or flux capacitor sales (kidding on that one). There are definitely important indicators out there, and we should tune in, but for a local market I might suggest paying the most attention to inventory, sales volume, and the word on the street. If new construction is booming in your market though, definitely watch that too.

7) A closing dating analogy: Just like a dating relationship needs time to figure out what it’s going to be become, the same thing happens in real estate. Right now in many areas of the country we’re seeing inventory increase and sales volume starting to slump. At the least these are signs of a slowing market for the season, but it also makes us wonder if it’s something more. What does it really mean? Where will things go? The truth is we don’t fully know yet because the future hasn’t happened and we need more time to see how things unfold. I realize that’s frustrating to hear, but it’s honest.

CLOSING TIPS:

1) Crystal balls: If you don’t have a crystal ball that works, be careful about making very specific real estate predictions.

2) Watch local data closely: More than ever it’s critical to watch local data. Lots of articles are talking about “national” trends, but what’s happening locally?

3) Don’t just regurgitate headlines: It’s easy to read headlines and let the titles become our talking points. Be careful of that since headlines are designed to get clicks and they may or may not reflect the market.

4) Know the season: It’s not always easy to understand what a market is doing at this time of year when things usually slow down. My advice? Understand normal seasonal trends by studying past years. What does the market normally do at this time of year? This will help us spot normal vs abnormal trends.

I hope that was helpful.

—–——– Big local monthly market update (long on purpose) —–——–

The market has been slowing for the past few months in Sacramento. We’re seeing what we’d expect to see at this time of the year like softer prices, more price reductions, a lower sales-to-list price ratio, and it’s taking longer to sell. We’ve had a hefty uptick in housing inventory though, and that’s something to watch – especially if it continues over time (that would be a problem). But for context, housing inventory is actually still historically low, so it’s not like we have a crazy high level right now. Some have wondered if the market is a bit stalled right now, but sales volume is still looking pretty strong and so are pendings. But I’d say there is some shock in the market because of the rise in inventory. Keep in mind one of the problems is so many sellers are overpricing, and that only makes inventory increase because these properties end up sitting instead of selling. On the other hand homes that are priced well are moving quickly, and 48% of all sales in the region last month had more than one offer. So despite a slowing narrative, the market isn’t painfully dull either.

I could write more, but let’s get visual instead.

DOWNLOAD 64 graphs HERE: Please download all graphs here as a zip file. See my sharing policy for 5 ways to share (please don’t copy verbatim).

JULY 2017 vs JULY 2018: So how did this past month do? One of the ways we find the answer is to compare last month with the same month in 2017.

JUNE 2018 vs JULY 2018 (NEW CHARTS): The problem is if we only look at July this year versus July last year, we’ll miss what the market is doing right now. So that’s why I have new charts to show the previous month vs the most recent month. But there’s still an issue because if we only look at this chart and don’t understand that the market normally softens around this time of year, we might walk away with the idea that the market is utterly tanking when it’s normal to see inventory increase, sales volume decline, etc… Look at graphs below to help see seasonal changes (or check out this older YouTube video where I talk about seeing the seasonal market).

SALES VOLUME: One of the things we need to watch is sales volume because if we start to see a trend of slumping sales, it could be a sign the market is in trouble. The truth is we’ve technically had a couple of months in a row of lower sales volume in the region. But volume was only off by 4% in June and it was barely off at all this past month (which is why I said “technically”). When you really look at it, sales volume this year in 2018 so far has been stronger than last year. But when we look at the past 12 months as a whole it’s clear volume is down (still only slightly though). Ultimately volume is not crashing right now based on the stats, so let’s be careful about saying it is.

NOTE on Trendgraphix: I have some thoughts on the way Trendgraphix is pulling stats. This month their stats show sales volume in Sacramento County is down by 6%, but that’s not accurate. I can explain why if anyone wants to know. And I love Trendgraphix. What an incredible resource. I just find when we’re looking at the market carefully in a time like this, it’s critical to know how the numbers work.

2005 vs CURRENT: In case you wanted to compare current price metrics with 2005, here you go. A couple of months ago I talked about peak prices because some metrics were showing 2005 levels. But with the market softening right now we’ll expect over the fall season to see current prices grow further apart from the “top” so to speak.