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When a home is almost three bedrooms (but technically only two)

November 8, 2017 By Ryan Lundquist 28 Comments

Imagine a house that used to be three bedrooms until the owner converted one room into a den. Is there a big hit to value now? Will the appraiser only give credit for two bedrooms? Let’s consider some thoughts below. Anything to add?

1) Big deal for value: First off, there can be a huge difference in value between a property that has three full bedrooms and one that only has two bedrooms with no other space that could possibly be used as a bedroom (such as a den). A three-bedroom unit simply has more utility and marketability, so when appraising a classic two-bedroom property I definitely want to take an “apples to apples” approach in my comp selection by finding other two-bedroom homes since those ones are most similar in appeal.

2) Buyers see the bigger picture: Sometimes we see homes that technically only have two bedrooms because a buyer selected a builder’s “den option” or maybe a seller removed a closet in the third bedroom. We’d be right to classify these homes as 2-bedroom properties, but at the same time my sense is if there’s an extra den or office that can be easily converted to a bedroom, buyers see the bigger picture of the house without getting too stuck on one less closet. Thus we can probably compare a house like this with other three-bedroom homes more than classic two-bedroom homes. Though we have to consider any impact to value for the lack of a closet.

EXAMPLE 1: A seller closed up a bedroom closet to use the space as an office and is now concerned an appraiser is not going to give him credit for the extra “bedroom.” Since there isn’t a closet, an appraiser will likely label the home as two bedrooms, BUT the appraiser will also recognize the house can very easily have an extra bedroom with the addition of a closet. Since the house is so much closer to being a three-bedroom home, it would be very limiting to only use classic 2-bedroom comps (see #3 below too). In other words, buyers see the big picture of a house and they probably aren’t going to expect a massive price reduction over one simple closet being removed.

EXAMPLE 2: I was asked how to value a 2-bedroom house that was close to 3000 sq ft and there were no other “comps” that size with only two bedrooms. But the thing is this house had extra space that could easily be converted to a third and fourth bedroom with the addition of closets. In situations like this it’s so easy to get locked into a rigid comp search and only look at two-bedroom homes. I’m a big fan of “apples to apples” where possible, but sometimes we have to step back and look at properties like buyers do. In this case there were multiple offers on the home because buyers were seeing the bigger picture of value rather than getting wrapped up in two closets missing. It’s possible this home could still sell at a discount, but let’s not start comparing it with significantly smaller two-bedroom “comps” either because that’s not what buyers are doing.

3) Logic and adjustments: Whenever we see a difference in bedroom count it’s easy to give a canned value adjustment. So without any research we hear, “The value difference between a 2-bedroom and 3-bedroom home is $20,000.” Okay, maybe that number works sometimes, but let’s step back and think like logical buyers. If looking at a home that has a den option that is otherwise similar to a traditional bedroom, it might cost around $2,000 to add a closet. In a situation like this does it really make logical sense to give a $20,000 negative adjustment? In other words, would buyers truly penalize a property at $20,000 because there is technically no closet? I would venture to say most buyers are probably not going to expect a huge price discount for such a minor cost-to-cure.

4) The market might not care: Sometimes the market doesn’t show much of a price impact for only having two bedrooms. We see this in 55+ communities, but we might also see it with architecturally interesting properties where prospective buyers might not need extra bedrooms. This is a good reminder to step back from being trigger-happy about giving the same value adjustment since the market doesn’t always make an adjustment.

5) Pro tip on downsizing: I recommend not turning a 3-bedroom to a 2-bedroom house. I see this happen when an owner wants a larger master bedroom, but it’s a quick way to lose marketability (and maybe value).

I hope this was helpful or interesting.

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Questions: What is #6? Do you have any stories or examples to share about the value difference (or lack thereof) between bedrooms? Anything else to add?

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How do we value a brand new house in an old neighborhood?

July 26, 2017 By Ryan Lundquist 15 Comments

What do we do with a brand new house in an old neighborhood? Can it sell for more? How much more? I’ve been asked several times about this lately, so I wanted to pitch in some thoughts. Anything to add?

Some things I would do and consider when valuing a new home:

1) Immediate neighborhood: In an ideal world I’ll find a few recent examples of brand new homes on nearby streets. But if not I would search through years worth of sales in the immediate neighborhood for something that was newer in age. Even if I found older sales from years ago, my goal would be to compare these brand new homes with other similar-sized older homes at the time. How much of a percentage price difference was there if any?

2) Surrounding market area: If there are no sales in the immediate neighborhood I’d search competitive areas in the surrounding market. Did buyers pay a price premium in other places? Remember, it might be easy to cherry pick “comps” from brand new subdivisions or infill projects, but that’s not really the same thing as being totally surrounded by older homes, right?

3) New development: Next I’d take a look at the premium for new construction in the surrounding local market. For example, two weeks ago someone asked me how to value a brand new home in an older part of West Sacramento. I recommended points 1 and 2, but also said it would be wise to look in the newer portions of West Sacramento to see what brand new homes are selling for compared to homes that are just 2-3 years old in the same development. The premium we see in the new subdivisions might not correlate perfectly with an older neighborhood, but it’s still data. For instance, imagine we found there was a 10% price premium for brand new homes in the new area. At the least that might help us decide not to apply a 20% price premium in the older neighborhood we’re working in. Know what I’m saying?

4) Price ceiling: It’s possible of course to build something magnificent that might sell for big money in some parts of town, but we cannot forget the reality of price ceilings. In other words, there is probably a price limit buyers are willing to pay in an area before moving on elsewhere. Where is that ceiling? That’s worth asking and researching.

5) The wrong one & modern homes: Just because something is brand new does not mean it’s going to fetch top dollar. If it’s the wrong type of house for the neighborhood, buyers might actually pay less for the property. It’s like when someone builds a plain earth-tone stucco tract home in a classic area with Tudors and Bungalows. Despite being new it might actually sell with a price discount if it doesn’t have any hint of era charm for the neighborhood. On the other hand there are modern homes popping up all over Sacramento and beyond that seem to defy this idea. These homes definitely don’t blend into the neighborhood at all in terms of design, but they’re still fetching high prices. Keep in mind though modern homes tend to carry wide appeal, so they are often able to break the mold of the neighborhood and still command a price premium because of their style. In short, modern homes are not vibeless tract homes, so it’s not really the same thing.

6) Other: What else would you add to this conversation?

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

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Questions: Anything else to add? What’s #6? What have you done when valuing that brand new home in an old area? I’d love to hear your take.

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How much value does a huge backyard shop add?

February 23, 2017 By Ryan Lundquist 20 Comments

A friend asked me a great question this week. How much value does that huge shop in the backyard add? He wasn’t sure how to pull comps, so I scratched out a few thoughts. Anything to add?

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1) The market: Can buyers use whatever the structure is? Will they pay for it? These are good questions to ask. At times home owners build things that are so specific to their own needs that the market really might not even want it (or maybe buyers will simply use it for something else). I think of Michael Jackson’s Ferris Wheel at Neverland Ranch or a $125,000 recording studio in the backyard of an area of Sacramento where values are about $225,000. There might be one buyer out there willing to pay a premium, but does that one buyer really represent the market? Remember, lenders are going to lend based on the market.

2) Find something similar: The best way to uncover value for a large workshop is to find a few examples that have sold. Keep in mind we might not find something exactly the same, but we have to do our best to find something we might think of as competitive. In a rural market there are likely many examples, but in a residential market we might have to pour through years worth of sales to find a large workshop, detached garage, or some other competitive structure. We can then compare these sales to others in the neighborhood at the time. How much of a price premium was there if any? For example, I did a search in the Tahoe Park neighborhood and found some large detached structures by looking in MLS under Garage (I selected 3 and 4 detached), # of Garage Spaces (I selected more than 3 spaces to see what structures I could find), and Other Structures (you can select things like “Workshop Building” or “Outbuilding” under this category). It can be tedious to search in MLS, but sometimes it’s surprising how quickly something will come up.

Tahoe Park search

3) Cost: Let’s consider the cost of the structure so we are in tune with quality. This doesn’t mean the market is going to pay more just because it was expensive, but the market will likely recognize quality and pay more for something that is nice (and usable). Home owners often want the market to pay the full cost of whatever was built, but there’s a fat chance of that happening because when people buy something used they tend to expect a discount.

4) Make Something Up: I’m kidding on this one, but I will say at times in real estate we have to use professional judgement when data is extremely limited. This sounds so wishy washy, but there is something to knowing a market and coming up with a range for what we think a group of buyers might realistically pay. In this case we might not give a specific value adjustment for the structure, but we can always consider the value of it in our final number. What I mean is we might see a range of value in a neighborhood for similar properties and end up reconciling the final appraised value for the subject property toward the higher end of the range because the subject has more assets. Be careful on this point though (and don’t spend two minutes on research and simply go straight to #4).

Questions: What is #5? Did I miss anything? How would you figure out the value? I’d love to hear your take.

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Three dangerous ways to choose comps

January 17, 2017 By Ryan Lundquist 21 Comments

It’s easy to get into value trouble when choosing comps, and today I want to highlight three ways to do that. I’ve observed each of these methods very recently, which is why I hoped to kick around some ideas together. I could have just as well entitled this post, “Three ways appraisers DON’T choose comps.” Any thoughts?

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Three dangerous ways to choose comps:

1) Price: When putting a value on something, searching by price is a quick way to NOT see the full picture. For instance, if we pull comps for a $750,000 sale by looking at all sales between $725,000 and $775,000, what we end up getting is a limited view of one price range. Have we truly found any similar properties or just the ones that have sold in that range and happen to support the contract price? The danger of searching by price is we can end up letting a few high sales impose a value on a property instead of letting similar homes paint a picture of value. This is why sometimes appraisers disregard the “comps” they are given from the real estate community because they are only similar in price rather than square footage, age, condition, location, upgrades, etc… If you are in the habit of searching by price in MLS when pulling comps, I might recommend searching by square footage instead (or by a parameter you think will help you make quality comparisons).

2) Capitalization Rates: The 2-4 unit market has been heating up in the Sacramento area. In fact, the new Yardi Matrix 2017 Winter Report says multi-family rents in Sacramento will grow by 9.6% this year. If that’s how things shake out, we’ll basically have seen a 30% increase in rent over the past few years. Wow!! Anyway, I’m finding news of the hot rental market is causing some 2-4 unit properties to be priced according to unrealistic cap rates instead of realistic comps and rental income (or even realistic cap rates). What I mean is sometimes comments in MLS say “check out the 8% cap rate” when the neighborhood really isn’t getting rates that low. Maybe surrounding properties are showing rates closer to 9-10%. This might not seem like a big deal, but when we plug an 8% rate into the cap rate formula instead of a realistic 9-10% rate, the value can be substantially different. My advice is to be cautious about imposing a cap rate on a property.

3) Price Per Sq Ft: In real estate it’s easy to see a sale down the street and then apply the price per sq ft from the sale to the subject property. But what if the price per sq ft doesn’t make any sense for the subject? The truth is smaller homes tend to have a much higher price per sq ft than larger ones, and dissimilar homes might actually have a far different price per sq ft too. Thus my advice is to be cautious about imposing a certain price per sq ft on a property when searching for comps. Let’s pay attention to price per sq ft figures, but at some point we have to ask the question, what are similar properties actually selling for? By the way, if you haven’t seen my Starbucks cups analogy, it’s a fun way to think about price per sq ft. 

The Big Idea of Imposing: All of these methodologies essentially help impose a value on a property because we end up applying a metric or price range to comp selection instead of looking for what is truly similar. Thankfully there isn’t only one way to search for comps, but no matter what we do it’s important to try to be objective and discover value rather than doing something that might impose value on a property. Know what I’m saying? By the way, here is how I tend to choose comps as an appraiser just in case you’re peeved I only told you what not to do.

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I hope that was helpful or interesting.

Questions: Did I miss anything? Anything you’d add? I’d love to hear your take.

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