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Condos, halfpipes, & cooling 2-4 units

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I have two compelling trends to share today, but fist let’s talk about a concrete halfpipe at an investor flip. I’d love to hear your take in the comments.

An investor friend just bought a house in Auburn with a halfpipe in the backyard. I’ll admit the middle school skater kid in me is stoked while the middle-aged man in me wants to relive my glory days… But what should Erin do as a flipper? Should she keep it or rip it out? Is this an asset or a liability?

This is a fun conversation, but there is a serious element here because investors come across interesting things all the time and have to make real-life decisions like this. So put your real estate cap on and let me know what you think in the comments.

Check out Erin’s Instagram (thanks for letting me share).

TWO TRENDS TO WATCH:

1) Condo sales are down 14.1% this year: I mentioned last month that condos haven’t been as popular and here’s a brand new visual to show what I mean. In short, buyers have been more focused on detached homes, which likely stems from wanting more space, privacy, and a larger backyard during the pandemic. Of course in the background low rates are a big factor because they give buyers more purchasing power (and thus shape what they can buy).

2) The cooling 2-4 unit market in Midtown: The single family market has been showing huge price increases in the Sacramento region, but the 2-4 unit market in Midtown isn’t the same temperature. When looking at the graph below do you see a flattening of prices lately? Does this surprise you?

This is something to watch and we have to keep rent control and eviction moratoriums on the suspect list when trying to understand this softer trend. Yet one of the bigger issues is these units have had massive price growth in recent years while rent growth has been slowing lately. Thus at some point when investors crunch the numbers it doesn’t make sense to pay more. For reference there isn’t an oversupply of listings in this market and demand is still strong.

Keep in mind other portions of Sacramento with lower-priced 2-4 units have still been showing an increase. These other areas have rent control too, which helps me think the flattening in Midtown is more related to flirting with a price ceiling.

Anyway, I’m thinking out loud and we need more time to see the trend. By the way, thanks to Brian McMartin and Franco Garcia for having conversations with me this week about this sub-market. I really value hearing what others are seeing out there as I run stats and interpret them.

Big point 1: The market isn’t the same everywhere.

Big point 2: Don’t take the trend in Midtown and project it on other 2-4 unit properties in the region. See point #1.

I hope that was interesting or helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: Should the halfpipe stay or go? Why? Any thoughts about the two trends I shared? I’d love to hear your take.

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Can it count in the square footage?

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Can you include it in the square footage? I get questions like this almost every week. Is it okay to count an accessory dwelling in the living area? What about a pool house? How about a man cave or she shed? Let’s talk about this.

The straight dope: It’s tempting to lump something else in the backyard into the square footage, but that’s not appropriate per ANSI measuring standards. Basically if you have to walk outside of the house into something else that is not directly accessible to the house, we’re really dealing with something that isn’t considered to be a part of the main house. So we call that something else a studio, casita, accessory unit, pool house, she shed, or whatever. It’s just not the main house, which is why it’s not included within the square footage. 

New video: I made a video to talk through some things to watch in the fall market. Enjoy if you wish (or watch here).

An Example: If you have a house at 2,500 sq ft and an accessory unit at 1,200 sq ft, it isn’t a 3,700 sq ft house. No, this is fundamentally a 2,500 sq ft house with something else. Could it be worth the same amount as a 3,700 sq ft house? Maybe. But if we only compare this type of home with other 3,700 sq ft units, we haven’t really proved what a 2,500 sq ft house with a 1,200 sq ft accessory unit is worth. The best comps will be other homes with accessory dwellings, right? Heck, maybe it’s worth even more. But we’ll never know unless we find the right comps to tell the story of value. The quick “comps” are all 3,700 sq ft, but those might not be the best representations of value.

The problem: If a property is priced based on a lumped square footage, what happens when the appraiser gets out there and needs to use smaller-sized comps that are consistent with the actual size of the main house? Is there going to be a difference in value?

The truth: It’s not an easy pill to swallow when the appraiser doesn’t include the extra space in the square footage, but just because it doesn’t count in the square footage doesn’t mean it doesn’t count in the value.

But they’re lumped together in MLS: I know, this happens all the time. A property will be sold with a lumped square footage of the main house and the pool house. We even see this happen at times in Tax Records. Let’s remember a few things: 1) The way a property is marketed doesn’t change what a property is; 2) As a non-lawyer I wonder if there is increased liability for representing a home at a larger size than it is (hopefully there is an asterisk that clarifies what the square footage represents); 3) The appraiser is very likely going to treat the two areas differently instead of lumping them together.

My advice? Instead of quickly pulling larger “comps” right away, try to isolate features such as a pool house, accessory dwelling, or outbuilding to determine what they’re worth in addition to the value of the main house. In other words, what is the main house plus the extra thing in the backyard worth? That’s the math market equation we have to figure out and it can be done by pouring through lots of data. Finding a few examples of homes that have sold with that feature is the ideal so we can try to discover what that feature commanded in terms of value. Sometimes we might even look through years of sales too. Remember we might not use really old sales as comps, but we can certainly use them for research.

Resources:
Q&A on accessory dwellings
Tips for valuing ADUs
Using older sales is sometimes the best option
Can a basement be considered square footage?

Anyway, I hope that was interesting or helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: Any stories to share? What follow-up questions or insight do you have? Did I miss anything?

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Three ways the pandemic has affected buyers

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How has the pandemic affected buyers? Today I want to share a few fascinating shifts concerning home size, pools, and migration. If you’re local, have you been seeing this? If you’re not local, what’s happening in your area?

1) BUYERS WANT LARGER HOMES

If you’ve been cooped up for months it makes sense that you’re going to want a larger home, and that’s exactly what the stats show in the Sacramento region. Do you see that spike in home size on the right side of the graph over the past three months? For the first time ever the average monthly home size was over 2,000 square feet in the Sacramento region too (two months in a row).

The Takeaway: Be in tune with shifting buyer expectations so you price it right since larger homes may be more marketable right now.

2) POOLS ARE MORE POPULAR

Lots of buyers want a home with a pool. After all, if you’re going to quarantine somewhere you might as well have the ultimate backyard. Home sales with built-in pools are up 4.2% this year in the Sacramento region so far. This is something we could have guessed, but it’s good to see what the stats actually say rather than going with what we feel might be true.

The Takeaway: Homes with pools are in high demand. They are more marketable and they may be more valuable too.

3) FLOCKING TO PLACER & EL DORADO COUNTY

This is where it gets interesting, so bear with me. Noticeably larger homes have shown up in sales stats from June to August this year, but a big part of that comes down to buyers focusing more heavily on Placer County & El Dorado County. In fact, over the past three months compared to last year Placer County sales volume is up 16.8% and El Dorado County volume is up 31.5%. Why does this matter? If you didn’t know, monthly sales in these two counties are routinely 400+ square feet larger in size than Sacramento County (mostly due to having newer homes through the years that were built larger). This data does NOT include brand new homes currently being sold from builders – only MLS sales. Anyway, when we consider why the home size in the region has jumped so much lately, a huge reason looks to be buyers flocking to these two counties in search of more space.

The Takeaway: When we consider large price gains lately it’s important to recognize some of the hefty gains are because larger homes have been sold.

I put some of this post in a video in case that’s easier to digest. Enjoy.

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I hope that was interesting or helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: In what ways have you seen buyers and sellers change because of the pandemic? I’d love to hear your take.

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Sellers, you don’t need 20 offers

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Sellers, getting twenty offers is the dream, right? That way you can be choosy about accepting the buyer with the strongest terms and probably a higher price too. But do you really need that many? In other words, can you get the same price with just a few offers? Let’s kick around this idea today.

THE SHORT VERSION:

1) No surprise. Getting more offers tends to lead to a higher sales price.
2) Sometimes just one offer can go way above the list price.
3) Homes with one offer also more regularly close way below the list price.
4) You don’t need 20 offers (but it sure does help).

THE LONGER VERSION:

Let’s look at some visuals and then consider some takeaways.

County Visuals: First off, I’m concerned these visuals are going to be confusing, so sorry if you’re thinking, “Dude, I only see dots and I have no idea what’s going on.” The goal is to show how much higher the sales price is compared to the original list price while considering the number of offers. Basically, when a dot is at 100%, it means a home sold at exactly the original list price. Or if a dot is at 110%, it sold 10% above the list price. Or 95% means it sold 5% lower than the original list price.

Question: What happens to prices when there are more offers?

The big plain truth: The truth is properties with more offers tend to close higher above the original list price than properties with fewer offers. Duh, I know we could have said that without the research, but it’s good to see what stats actually show rather than going with what we feel might be true. With that said, sometimes a home with just one offer can actually close at the same high percentage above the list price as a home with ten offers. So technically you don’t need ten to twenty offers to command a huge price (but it sure does help).

Neighborhood Visuals: Let’s check out some neighborhoods too instead of just the county. What do you see?

Conclusion: There are fewer data points to consider in the neighborhood visuals, but the takeaway is the same as the county (see above).

QUICK THOUGHTS:

1) 20 offers: If you’re getting 20 offers, it’s probably because you’re priced too low unless that’s what every listing is getting.

2) Aim for a few: Price it reasonably and you’re more likely to command a few solid offers and statistically be in the zone to compete above the list price. The reality is you don’t need 20 offers to get a huge price (but it helps).

3) Hang in there buyers: It’s not easy out there right now, but it’s worth noting not every sale is getting ten offers. It may feel true, but the stats don’t show it is.

4) Not everything is getting bid up: While many properties go 10% to 15% above the original list price, many homes sell below the list price. The narrative is Bay Area buyers are swooping in, paying cash, and everything is getting bid up, but that’s not true when looking at how many homes recently sold below the original list price (basically any dots below the 100% line).

5) Clear advantage: Having lots of offers gives sellers a huge advantage to be selective and accept contracts with the best terms (and probably higher prices).

6) Layers of the market: Not every price range is experiencing the same dynamic when it comes to multiple offers and getting bid up. This is why it’s so dangerous to take an experience with just one property and call it a trend for the market. Maybe. Maybe not.

I hope that was helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: How many offers do you think is ideal for a seller to get? Why are some listings able to command a huge price even though they only get one or two offers? What is it about those ones? Any other insight? I’d love to hear your take.

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