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When marijuana grow operations are down the street

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Does it matter for value if there are a few legal marijuana grow operations in the neighborhood? That’s not really a question we asked much in the past, but it’s definitely a reality in many portions of California now since recreational marijuana was approved at the ballots last year. I know this is a polarizing topic, but legal cannabis cultivation is something we have to pay attention to now in real estate – regardless of our personal views. Today let’s look at a specific situation I encountered a few weeks ago and consider a few takeaways.

Not an advocate: Just to clarify, I am writing for the sake of analyzing real estate trends. I am not a cannabis advocate in any way and this post is not about whether marijuana is good or not for society.

If you didn’t see in the SacBee, there are now 108 locations within the City of Sacramento with a commercial cannabis permit in process. This means there are at least 108 planned legal grow operations. The largest cluster is in an industrial section off Power Inn Road, but there are quite a few in North Sacramento too.

The situation: I appraised a house on Eldridge Avenue in Sacramento a few weeks back and I discovered there are three commercial cannabis cultivation permits on file with the city one street to the south. This is a residential area, but it’s next to industrial properties.

On Kathleen Avenue there are residential homes to the north and the “green zone” to the south. In many cases commercial grow operations will be far from residential homes, but not in every case as seen below.

Three things to consider about legal cannabis cultivation:

1) Neighborhood trends: Part of knowing the market and being a real estate expert is being in tune with what is happening in the neighborhood – even in the commercial sector. If you haven’t bookmarked the SacBee cannabis map, I recommend doing that. You can also see where marijuana dispensaries are located here.

2) Disclosure: Anyone who works in real estate needs to consider what disclosure looks like when we find out about cannabis grows nearby. I won’t tell anyone what to disclose or how to do it because that’s not my role, but knowing about commercial cannabis grow operations might be a good place to start. This is especially true in a situation like the one above where one side of the street is residential and the other side is industrial. This is a conversation that each appraisal firm and brokerage ought to have as the legal cannabis industry emerges. In my appraisal report on Eldridge Ave I simply disclosed my knowledge of three cannabis cultivation permits one street south of the subject property. Remember, it is illegal to have a commercial cannabis operation in a residential home, so disclosure is probably something we’ll think about more when there are nearby industrial properties. Moreover, it is only legal to grow commercially in the City of Sacramento as most other areas including Sacramento County have said NO to legal commercial grow operations (for now).

3) Value impact: Over time we’ll have to ask if there is a value impact due to proximity of cannabis cultivation businesses. Right now this is all so new and we are only seeing the beginning of an emerging industry take root in Sacramento. Keep in mind there are very strict guidelines for these businesses, and the City of Sacramento is putting rules in place to ensure neighborhoods and areas don’t “go to pot” so to speak (pun intended). There are rules for security, safety, proximity to schools, and even odor. In many cases these businesses could operate without any visible evidence at all. Though if there does end up being a problem with odor, crime, or stigma, then that’s something we’ll have to watch and consider. On a side note, it seems many of these grow operations so far are located in areas with lower property values. To be fair there may be more industrial properties in these locations, but this is still something to watch closely.

4) Other: What is #4?

Cannabis class I’m teaching: By the way, I’m teaching a class at SAR called “The emerging trend of marijuana in real estate” on August 30. I’ll talk for 60-75 minutes about zoning, land value, disclosures, etc… More details here.

Questions: Do nearby cannabis businesses need to be disclosed? What do you think we need to look for to know if there is any impact to value? Anything else to add? I’d love to hear your take.

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How do we value a brand new house in an old neighborhood?

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What do we do with a brand new house in an old neighborhood? Can it sell for more? How much more? I’ve been asked several times about this lately, so I wanted to pitch in some thoughts. Anything to add?

Some things I would do and consider when valuing a new home:

1) Immediate neighborhood: In an ideal world I’ll find a few recent examples of brand new homes on nearby streets. But if not I would search through years worth of sales in the immediate neighborhood for something that was newer in age. Even if I found older sales from years ago, my goal would be to compare these brand new homes with other similar-sized older homes at the time. How much of a percentage price difference was there if any?

2) Surrounding market area: If there are no sales in the immediate neighborhood I’d search competitive areas in the surrounding market. Did buyers pay a price premium in other places? Remember, it might be easy to cherry pick “comps” from brand new subdivisions or infill projects, but that’s not really the same thing as being totally surrounded by older homes, right?

3) New development: Next I’d take a look at the premium for new construction in the surrounding local market. For example, two weeks ago someone asked me how to value a brand new home in an older part of West Sacramento. I recommended points 1 and 2, but also said it would be wise to look in the newer portions of West Sacramento to see what brand new homes are selling for compared to homes that are just 2-3 years old in the same development. The premium we see in the new subdivisions might not correlate perfectly with an older neighborhood, but it’s still data. For instance, imagine we found there was a 10% price premium for brand new homes in the new area. At the least that might help us decide not to apply a 20% price premium in the older neighborhood we’re working in. Know what I’m saying?

4) Price ceiling: It’s possible of course to build something magnificent that might sell for big money in some parts of town, but we cannot forget the reality of price ceilings. In other words, there is probably a price limit buyers are willing to pay in an area before moving on elsewhere. Where is that ceiling? That’s worth asking and researching.

5) The wrong one & modern homes: Just because something is brand new does not mean it’s going to fetch top dollar. If it’s the wrong type of house for the neighborhood, buyers might actually pay less for the property. It’s like when someone builds a plain earth-tone stucco tract home in a classic area with Tudors and Bungalows. Despite being new it might actually sell with a price discount if it doesn’t have any hint of era charm for the neighborhood. On the other hand there are modern homes popping up all over Sacramento and beyond that seem to defy this idea. These homes definitely don’t blend into the neighborhood at all in terms of design, but they’re still fetching high prices. Keep in mind though modern homes tend to carry wide appeal, so they are often able to break the mold of the neighborhood and still command a price premium because of their style. In short, modern homes are not vibeless tract homes, so it’s not really the same thing.

6) Other: What else would you add to this conversation?

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

Tips for talking with appraisers [WEBINAR]: This week I recorded a 20-minute webinar for real estate agents on tips for talking with appraisers. Check it out here (or below). Thanks Tina Mitchell for the invite to do this.

Questions: Anything else to add? What’s #6? What have you done when valuing that brand new home in an old area? I’d love to hear your take.

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Price ceilings & literal ceilings that are too low

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I have two types of ceilings on my mind. How do you know when a market begins to reach its price ceiling for the season? And how low can a ceiling be in a home and still be considered legitimate square footage by an appraiser?

I recently inspected a house where the ceiling was 6 feet 8 inches high. Is that tall enough to count? Is there such a thing as too low? Let’s talk about it. 

How low can a ceiling be? Lots of people think 8 feet is the minimum ceiling height because that’s a common height in most homes, but it’s actually 7 feet according to the American National Standards Institute (ANSI Z765). Technically ANSI says it’s okay to have a ceiling height at 6’4″ under beams though. Keep in mind sometimes a ceiling might have a downward slope like we see with a Tudor or the photo above. When ceilings slope really low, there is something called the “5 foot rule” where the appraiser can count any space above 5 feet as living area as long as over 50% of the ceiling area is at least 7 feet.

When appraisers observe houses with ceilings below 7 feet, they’ll typically email the lender and say, “Hey there, this property has a ceiling less than 7 feet, and that doesn’t cut it according to ANSI standards. How do you want me to proceed?” After hearing that there’s a good chance the lender might not want to do the loan. Of course a property with low ceilings can still have value and even be appraised, but it may need to be marketed to an investor paying cash instead of a buyer using conventional or FHA financing.

Market price ceilings: Switching ceiling gears, how would you know if the market was beginning to reach its price ceiling for the season? That’s a great question to ask since many markets in the United States are going to be doing just that over the next couple of months. As I said in June, the Sacramento market is beginning to slow down even though we don’t see it in the sales stats yet. This doesn’t mean the market is cold or values are declining. It only means we are seeing subtle clues to a slowing market as high altitude values from the spring are at the beginning of a downward seasonal descent.

Umm, please don’t say the market is slowing!!!

At times it’s not very popular in the real estate community to publicly talk about the market slowing, but it’s something that happens nearly every single year. I realize we have big headlines about the market being “hot”, and it really is in many way, but catching the symptoms of a slowing market is key for valuing properties (and it’s good for clients). I suggest starting to watch price reductions more closely because they’ve been increasing lately in Sacramento and this is one of the first signs of a slowing market. Also pay attention to days on market increasing in coming time along with some of the other factors above (including the sales to list price ratio). I highly recommend asking other real estate professionals the question, “What are you seeing out there?” It’s amazing the type of insight you can glean from title reps, loan officers, appraisers, agents, escrow officers, etc…

I hope that was helpful or interesting. Any thoughts?

–——-——- Big monthly market update (it’s long on purpose) ———–——-

Values showed an increase again last month and sales volume was very steady compared to the past few Junes. Overall most price metrics were up 1-2% from last month, though the month prior they increased 2-4%. Inventory is still down about 20% from last year, and properties have been selling like hotcakes in only 9 days (that’s the median). In case you wanted to know, most price metrics are up about 7% from last year. One interesting thing to watch is FHA sales are starting to sag more noticeably as they ticked down a few percentage points to 21% of the market in Sacramento County. Granted, 1 in 5 sales is still quite a bit of FHA volume, but last year we were seeing 1 in 4 sales go FHA. It’s easy to think this means first-time buyers are getting squeezed out by Bay Area buyers, but that’s not really the case. My sense is the downtrend is due to more would-be FHA buyers using competitive conventional products instead of FHA. Lastly, it’s worth noting Curbed has a glowing article about Sacramento (cool that they quoted me too). This article is starting to go viral and it’s bound to get many locals pumped on how “hot” the Sacramento market is. Yet despite being “hot” in many ways, let’s remember to look for the signs of a slowing market because we have to realize the market usually hits its seasonal price ceiling right about now (but we won’t see it in the sales stats for a while). I could go on and on with words, but let me share some graphs to show the market visually.

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Sacramento County graphs this month (more graphs & stats here):

Sacramento Regional graphs this month (more graphs & stats here):

Placer County graphs this month (more graphs & stats here):

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Questions: Any low ceiling stories to share? Is the price ceiling for the season just about here? Did I miss anything? I’d love to hear your take.

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