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The problem of not listening in a slower market

September 12, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 9 Comments

It’s not easy to listen when the market is slowing. This is true for sellers taking in pricing advice, and it’s also true for the average person reading national headlines. Let’s talk about this. Then for those interested I have a big market update. Anything to add?

Sellers not listening: All year it seems sellers have struggled to listen to pricing advice from their real estate agents. I guess I can understand because they’ve had nothing but “hot” headlines for six years. But I think there’s another issue too. Maybe we’re seeing some of the effect of sellers having more real estate data at their disposal than ever because of Zillow, Redfin, Metrolist, blogs… So right or wrong, we have sellers who now they think they know better than anyone. Whatever the case, sellers are making real mistakes out there by not listening to pricing advice and instead pricing for a much hotter market than we actually have. In case it’s useful, I wrote an article in Comstock’s magazine with some practical advice for sellers.

Listening to national headlines: There have been sensational headlines about the market beginning to crash, and it’s difficult at times to think past these headlines and be objective. Let’s remember though that headlines are designed to get clicks, and a headline may or may not mean anything for a local market. My advice? Don’t let any headline cloud your judgement of local trends.

Listening without enough context: This sounds like such a geeky point, but hang in here with me because it matters. Lots of times in real estate we end up comparing the current year with the previous year, and that’s actually a good thing. But my sense is we’re missing something if we pay too much attention to last year only and ignore prior years. In Sacramento at least it’s been a few seasons since we’ve had a dull fall, so it’s easy to forget what that feels like. Moreover, if we look at current inventory levels beginning to push a two-month housing supply, that looks huge compared to the past couple years. But if we look at inventory from 2014 when we had a dull fall season, it was hovering between 2 to 2.75 months at the time. This reminds us it’s possible to have higher inventory at this time of year without the market utterly tanking. I don’t say this to diminish the importance of rising housing supply right now, but only to highlight the need to look to a few more years of data as we interpret what is happening. After all, sometimes pulling stats is like pulling comps. If we only look at the past 90 days of sales, that might not be enough. At times we need a much wider view to really see the market. The same thing happens with real estate data. Know what I’m saying?

I hope that was helpful. Do you “hear” what I’m saying?

—–——– Big local monthly market update (long on purpose) —–——–

The market has been slowing. Duh, we know that. Everyone’s talking about it. Let me unpack what I mean below with some comments on some of the bigger themes right now:

Coffee vs. skimming: This post has lots of information. It’s designed to skim until you find something you want to read, or pour a cup of coffee and really spend some time digesting stuff.

BIG ISSUES IN SACRAMENTO:

Prices softening: Most price metrics in the region softened between 1-2% last month, though the median price in Sacramento County was flat. Around this time of year we normally see prices dip (as graphs show below).

Slowing momentum: We know the market is slowing for the season, but it’s also slowing down in terms of overall momentum. What I mean is in years past we’d look at stats and see price metrics were up a good 8-10% over the year, but these days they’re only up closer to 4-6% instead.

Slowing rent: Rent growth has been flattening lately, which is a good thing since rents sprinted way ahead of actual wage growth. Keep in mind this doesn’t mean rents have declined. It just seems the rent trend is flattening.

Sales volume is not crashing: One of the bigger issues to watch to know if a market is crashing is a change in sales volume. In other words, if properties stop selling, we have a big problem. Last month sales volume was down about 6% in the region and 2.6% in Sacramento County. Uh oh, is that a warning sign? Look, this is important to watch over time to know if we have a trend on our hands, but before making too much of one month of data, let’s look to the bigger picture. The truth is sales volume is actually higher so far this year in the region than last year and it’s up 1% in Sacramento County too. No mater how we look at it, volume has actually been strong. This isn’t spin, but fact. Please see my charts below. So on one hand let’s watch these next months carefully because it could be a problem if monthly sales volume does start to come in lower, but let’s also not give laser focus to a weaker August while ignoring the bigger context either.

Inventory is definitely up: It’s really noticeable to see more inventory right now. Even my non-real estate wife has said she’s seeing more listings when driving around town. Housing supply is actually up 25% compared to the same time last year, and it’s literally the first time in three years since we’ve had more than a two-month supply of homes for sale. Obviously if the rate of increase keeps climbing and the market doesn’t absorb new listings, we could have a problem on our hands. But let’s also remember when the market was very dull in the fall of 2014 we saw inventory hover between 2 to 2.75 months at the time.

Taking longer to sell: It took five days longer to sell last month compared to the month before. And this year it took 4 day longer than last year at the same time. So the market has slowed down from last year, but it’s definitely slowing from the past few months too. Sellers, did you hear that? You are losing power in this market and buyers are gaining it. My advice? Price according to listings that are actually getting into contract rather than the highest glowing sales from the spring. This week I talked with an agent about the market feeling really soft in a particular area because listings weren’t moving. But sometimes I wonder if it’s the market or just overpriced listings. From my vantage point almost every listing in the neighborhood was priced 5-10%+ too high, so it wasn’t a real shocker they weren’t selling.

I could write more, but let’s get visual instead.

DOWNLOAD 72 graphs HERE: Please download all graphs here as a zip file. See my sharing policy for 5 ways to share (please don’t copy verbatim).

BIG QUESTIONS:

1) How did the market change from last year?

2) How did the market change from July to August?

3) Is sales volume really crashing right now?

4) How does the current market compare to the previous peak?

2005 vs CURRENT: A few months ago I talked about peak prices because some metrics were showing 2005 levels. But with the market softening right now prices are growing further apart from the “top” so to speak.

SACRAMENTO COUNTY (more graphs here):

SACRAMENTO REGION (more graphs here):

PLACER COUNTY (more graphs here):

I hope that was helpful.

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Questions: Do you think sellers are struggling to listen right now? What are you seeing out there in the market? I’d love to hear your take.

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Explaining how price per sq ft doesn’t work (with a Lamborghini)

February 6, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 25 Comments

If there’s one conversation to master in real estate, it’s explaining how price per sq ft works. Or rather how it doesn’t work. In the past I’ve used Starbucks cups and even toilet paper to explain things, but today let’s use price per pound. What do you think? Let me know.

Seller: I used price per sq ft to price my property.

Me: That’s great. Did you pick the right number?

Seller: What do you mean?

Me: Imagine your neighbor just bought a Toyota Camry for $24,000. If we do some quick math, she paid $7 per pound based on the weight of the car.

Seller: Okay.

Me: Now imagine a different neighbor wants to buy a Lamborghini. It’s been his dream since middle school, but it’s way out of his budget. Well, not any longer though since he just learned the price per pound for a vehicle is $7. He can now afford the Lambo. Pretty cool, right?

Seller: It doesn’t work that way. 

Me: Exactly. Why not?

Seller: You can’t use the price per pound from a Camry to price a Lambo. Those are two completely different cars.

Me: Well said. And in the same way we can’t borrow a price per sq ft from a dissimilar property down the street and arbitrarily use it to price your house. That’s a bit like using Camry stats to price a Lambo.

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UPDATED on 2/08/2018 (“Picking the right number”): Someone read this post and thought I was saying price per sq ft is a good metric to use. That’s definitely not what I’m saying. To be fair I think I can see why this person thought that because I mentioned “picking the right number” in the conversation above. I’m not suggesting there is a right number to choose, and that example question is really only a device to help move conversation forward (rather than something to be taken literally). The big point here is choosing a random price per sq ft to price a property is a really bad idea. I suggest actually paying attention to similar sales more than anything. Does that make sense? I hope so.

This car example isn’t intended to tackle all aspects of price per sq ft. It’s simply a way to start conversation. Read more on price per sq ft here.

Mastering this conversation: I highly recommend for real estate professionals to master this conversation. If you don’t like the car example, that’s fine. My sense is it’s critical though to have a few examples at hand to quickly explain how price per sq ft works (and doesn’t work). Why? Because when sellers overprice it’s often because they’re hung up price per sq ft.

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

Questions: Does this work? Why do some sellers and real estate professionals get hung up on price per sq ft? Did I miss something?

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The waking market, pulling stats like a boss, & the year in review

January 12, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 16 Comments

The market went to sleep for the holidays and it’s just starting to wake up. Let’s talk about that along with pulling stats like a boss. Then I have a huge market update and review for those interested. 

No sales to support higher values: In a normal January the market is in a weird spot. It’s coming out of hibernation from the holidays, and even though buyers eventually start offering higher prices, the most recent sales might not support higher contracts. In other words, sales from November and December might actually be much lower than what buyers are willing to pay in later January and February because the market has begun to awaken out of a lull. The reality is we might not see any upward value movement in sales stats until March, but the upward trend will begin to happen in January and February before we see it in the stats. Data lags the trend. I remind myself of this every year.

Getting practical: In coming time as the market presumably heats up I recommend looking for a pattern of pending sales (probably higher), watching for properties spending less time on the market, and study what prices normally do this time of year in your area. In many locations prices tend to pick up where they left off in the late summer before they faded during the fall.

Game-changing stats: Paying attention to numbers has literally changed my career, so I wanted to give some tips for how to begin pulling stats for a city, county, neighborhood… Here’s a chart you can use to track price changes and a few other key elements (DOWNLOAD here). I highly recommend carving out a few minutes each month to track some of these basics. Then of course find relevant ways to share the numbers with your clients and contacts.

Here’s a video where I talk through how to use the chart as well as mistakes to avoid. It’s about 10 minutes. Click below (or here) and watch in FULL screen:

–——-——- Big monthly market update (it’s long on purpose) ———–——-

Prices have been softening in Sacramento, but it hasn’t been painfully dull like some fall seasons. Overall prices in the region sloughed last month (not a surprise), it took six days longer to sell, and the year closed out with price metrics being about 8-10% higher than December 2016. The number of listings really took a nosedive last month, but that’s what happens since people don’t list in November and December unless they really have to sell. Listings should increase over the next couple months as the market heats up for the spring. I know hungry buyers feel like inventory won’t be coming, but it’ll happen.

Quick insight: Housing inventory is sparse, but one good thing is inventory seems like it went a little more sideways last year instead of declining sharply. On a positive note, the market ended with the lowest number of foreclosures and short sales in the past decade. This isn’t a shocker, but it’s still a sign of healing after the “bubble” burst more than ten years ago. Prices in 2017 increased about the same as they did the past couple years. Lastly, sales volume has been steady for a few years, and that shows the market has found a rhythm.

Recap of 2017 in Sacramento:

I could write more, but let’s get visual instead.

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SACRAMENTO COUNTY (more graphs & stats here):

Sacramento County Stats:

  1. The median price is currently $350,000. It’s about the same as last month & down 0.5% from summer.
  2. The median price is 11.1% higher than the same time last year.
  3. Sales volume in December was 5.6% lower this year than 2016. There were 1392 single family detached sales last month.
  4. It took an average of 36 days to sell a home last month (one year ago it was taking 3 days longer).
  5. The median days on market last month was 21 days.
  6. It took 3 more days to sell in Dec. compared to November (median days).
  7. FHA sales were 20.5% of all sales last month in the county.
  8. Only 0.7% of sales last month were bank-owned & 0.2% were short sales.
  9. The avg price per sq ft was about $221, which declined last month (9.6% higher than last year).
  10. The avg sales price softened about 1.5% last month and is $379,962. This is 10.5% higher than last year.
  11. Cash sales were 13% of all sales last month.

SACRAMENTO REGION (more graphs & stats here):

Sacramento Region Stats:

  1. The median price is $385,000. It softened nearly 1% last month.  
  2. The median price is 10% higher than the same time last year.
  3. Sales volume in December was down 4.7% this year. There were 2202 single family detached sales last month.
  4. It took an average of 42 days to sell a home last month (one year ago it was taking 2 days longer).
  5. The median days on market last month was 24 days, which means properties are selling really quickly.
  6. The median days on market increased by 5 days last month, which shows a slowing in the market.  
  7. FHA sales were 17.5% of all sales last month.
  8. Only 1.6% of sales last month were bank-owned & 0.9% were short sales.
  9. The avg price per sq ft was about $225, which decreased 2% last month (8.4% higher than last year).
  10. The avg sales price decreased 2.5% last month and is 9.1% higher than last year.
  11. Cash sales were 14% of all sales last month.

PLACER COUNTY (more graphs & stats here):

Placer County Stats

  1. The median price is $450,000 and decreased slightly last month.
  2. The median price is 6.1% higher than the same time last year.
  3. Sales volume in December was 3.6% lower than 2016. There were 450 single family detached sales.
  4. It took an average of 48 days to sell a home last month (one year ago it was taking 1 less day to sell).
  5. The median days on market last month was 28 days, which means properties are selling really quickly.
  6. The median days on market increased 9 days last month (don’t read too much into that). 
  7. FHA sales were 12.6% of all sales.
  8. There were only 4 bank-owned sales last month and only 7 short sales.
  9. The avg price per sq ft was $228, which softened about 3% last month (5.7% higher than last year).
  10. The avg sales price is currently $510,174. This is 8% higher than last year.
  11. Cash sales were 14.9% of all sales last month.

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Questions: What are you seeing out there in the market? Anything I missed? I’d love to hear your take.

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Speed bumps, neighbors, & real estate logic

October 18, 2017 By Ryan Lundquist 14 Comments

Are speed bumps a big deal for value? That’s what a friend asked me, and since she gave me permission to share her situation with a neighbor, I hoped we could chat. If someone asked you, how would you respond?

The situation: My friend said, “We live on a busy-ish street with lots of kids walking to and from school, and neighbors are talking about requesting speed bumps to slow cars down. One neighbor who is against this says, “adding speed bumps will decrease the value of a home by 20%.” What do you think of that?”

My response: I’ve got a few things on my mind.

1) Making value claims: Whenever someone makes a value claim, my market antennas go up. What is 20% based on? Is it just an arbitrary number? Or is it based on market research? A study? Does it even seem realistic? These are questions we have to ask to have an informed conversation.

2) It’s busy already: Speed bumps are usually installed because the street is busy and has traffic issues, so there might actually already be a negative impact on value because of the busy street. To be clear I’m not saying speed bumps cannot potentially negatively impact value, but let’s not forget the busy street in the first place, which could be the bigger issue for value.

3) Crunching numbers with logic: Thinking logically is actually one of the best things we can do when having value discussions with neighbors. Sometimes we just need to step back from our ideas and start talking numbers. For instance, if homes are selling for $400,000, and your neighbor is correct about a 20% reduction in value, would these homes really sell for $320,000 if speed bumps were installed? Does that sound reasonable? Does it seem logical for buyers to make a reduction that large based on what you know about the neighborhood market? Moreover, if your neighbor listed his house for sale, would the list price be anywhere close to 20% less if there were speed bumps?

4) The noise factor: To be fair your neighbor is smart to think critically about this issue because we have to consider what speed bumps will do for traffic, the feel of the street, and noise. I recall talking with a city planner once who said neighbors would complain about a busy street and request speed bumps, but after they were installed the same neighbors would complain about the noise of the bumps when cars were speeding over them. Could noise be an issue?

Anyway, that’s how I answered my friend. If you notice, I didn’t make a specific value claim on purpose because as an appraiser I can’t just make stuff up without really supporting the value I say exists. Sorry if that’s frustrating, but for me the big takeaway here is actually how important it is to sometimes step back from our ideas and think critically about value issues. At the same time I’m hoping to open up some conversation, so I would absolutely love to hear your take.

Questions: How do you think speed bumps might impact value? Big deal or no biggie? Do you think it’s possible to measure the impact of speed bumps? Why or why not? What is #5? Did I miss something?

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