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choosing comps

5 things to know about appraisers choosing comps

May 29, 2014 By Ryan Lundquist 38 Comments

What makes a good “comp” for an appraiser? Are there certain guidelines appraisers have to follow when choosing comparable sales? Let me share with you five principles to know about stemming from the Fannie Mae Seller’s Guide (pages 597-598). This can help you understand some of the guidelines appraisers use when choosing comps, as well as give you some direction in case you are planning to share sales sales data (comps) with the appraiser during the inspection.

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5 things to know about comps straight from Fannie Mae

  1. Bare Minimum: Appraisers must use at least 3 closed sales as comps.
  2. One Year: Comps need to have sold within the past 12 months, though an appraiser can make an exception if there is a good reason to use older sales (custom home, no truly recent competitive sales, etc…).
  3. Subject as Comp Four: The subject property can be used as a 4th comp if it sold recently. This might seem strange, but I’ve done this before when sales were extremely limited.
  4. No 90-day Rule: Appraisers do not have to use sales in the past 90 days. If there are better comparable sales (but older), the appraiser can certainly use those instead of using less similar newer ones. In fact, when speaking of comp selection, Fannie Mae gives the following example: “It may be appropriate for the appraiser to use a nine month old sale with a time adjustment rather than a one month old sale that requires multiple adjustments.” Of course many lenders do have a 90-day comp guideline, which makes it seem like appraisers need to use this guideline, but it’s really not a Fannie Mae rule.
  5. No One-Mile Radius: There is no such thing as a one-mile radius from Fannie Mae. Many lenders want appraisers to stay within a one-mile radius for comps in a suburban area, but that is NOT a Fannie Mae requirement. Appraisers should use the most competitive sales available. Bottom line. The question then becomes, “how far should an appraiser go for comps?”, but the better question is, “where should an appraiser go for comps?” Sometimes tracking down the best available comparisons means staying within a few streets, while other times it might mean traveling multiple miles away. A one-mile radius can actually be a dangerous way to search for comparable sales anyway because you could easily have many different markets within one mile (this is why I use the polygon search in MLS). When appraisers or real estate agents use the wrong sales for comparison, it’s easy to have an off-base value or price. If you want to gauge comparability, ask yourself the following: Would a buyer likely purchase this “comp” if the subject property was not available? Is this “comp” located in the same neighborhood or a truly competitive neighborhood? Do you think other people in the market would consider your sales as comparable to the subject property?

A quick video on the “one-mile radius” I shot a while back. Watch below (or here):

Private appraisals may be different: Fannie Mae and lender rules do not apply to private appraisals for divorce, estate planning, tax grievances, pre-listing, etc… Some of the guidelines are reasonable of course in that appraisers ought to use the best sales available, but otherwise appraisers do not wear the lender’s leash for private appraisal work. For instance, I had over a dozen divorce appraisals last month, and my reports didn’t have to explain to a lender why some sales were outside of a 90-day time period. I simply used the best sales to help illustrate the market. Bottom line.

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The pros and cons of home ownership in an HOA

January 2, 2014 By Ryan Lundquist 10 Comments

Would you live in a neighborhood with a Home Owners Association (HOA)? Why or why not? HOA neighborhoods usually have a monthly fee that can be as low as $50, but as high as $300+ (in the Sacramento area at least). Why are home owners willing to fork over fees like this every month when most other neighborhoods do not have dues? Usually it’s a matter of living in a more controlled environment, a neighborhood with more conformity, a life with less house maintenance or even affordable housing depending on the HOA. At the same time, some buyers are repulsed by the concept of neighborhoods with monthly dues because they are viewed as a freedom drain because of all the rules.

Here is a list I made of the pros and cons of HOA ownership. Anything you’d add?

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Choosing Comps Inside & Outside an HOA: It is always important during the appraisal process to consider whether there is an HOA and how that impacts value. This definitely shows up when choosing comps too because when trying to support a value it is critical to use sales inside the HOA instead of pulling in “comps” from other nearby neighborhoods that really might not be all that competitive. What is happening inside the HOA in terms of value? That is always my first question before choosing sales outside of the community (and assuming the value is the same). It’s definitely okay to use outside sales as comparables in the appraisal report, but it’s always best to start inside the community first.

By the way, you may be interested to learn more about the difference between a PUD and condo (both of which usually have an HOA). If you’re local, be sure to check out the video below (or here) to know how to use plat maps to help tell the difference so you can be prepared to market a property correctly, get a loan or compare the property to other similar ones.

Question: Why do you think people move into HOA communities? I’d love to hear your take.

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Why it’s important to think of new homes just like new cars

December 17, 2013 By Ryan Lundquist 2 Comments

A couple years ago my family bought a 2012 Camry. Let me tell you, being a guy that is 6’0″ tall, it sure is nice to have more leg room compared to a tiny Sentra we also own. Though I’ll admit I gave up my truck when we got the Camry, and it’s just not the same thing trying to transport 2x4s in a sedan from Home Depot for my building projects.

A Relevant Analogy: Anyway, I have an analogy to share today about new homes and new cars. As new construction has been taking off again in the Sacramento area and many other places, I’m finding some home owners and even some real estate agents aren’t in tune with the difference in value between new homes and ones that are even just one year old. Let’s take a look below.

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As you can see, there is a striking difference in value (price) between a brand new Camry and one that is just two years old. Just as buyers pay less for older cars, the same is true in real estate. The moment a house is built and occupied, it loses that fresh “never been lived in” premium that buyers pay more for.

A Conversation About New Construction and a “Low” Appraisal:

Owner: I live in a new neighborhood and I’m frustrated the appraisal came in low at $360K. I was expecting it to be $400K.
Me: Tell me about your situation.
Owner: The appraiser didn’t use the newest comps. I even walked over to the sales office and there are several recent sales at $400K. My house is only one year old and we spent about $10,000 in rear landscaping too. The 2013 models don’t even have rear landscaping.
Me: What are 2012 models like yours selling for? That might give you a good picture of value.
Owner: [ Silence ]
Me: Real estate is sort of like buying a car. The moment you drive the car off the lot, it depreciates in value. You just cannot sell a car built in 2012 for as much as a brand new model. Just as buyers pay more for a car that has never been driven, they also pay more for a home that has never been lived in. There is usually a striking value difference between brand new homes and model matches that sold even one year ago. The value difference can sometimes easily be 10% or more.

If you’re in a similar situation, I hope this helps give some context. At the same time, if you think the appraiser still got your value wrong, check out how to challenge a low appraisal. On the other hand, if your Assessor is valuing your home at the same level as brand new homes, it may be worth appealing your property taxes.

Question: Any thoughts, insight or stories to share? I’d love to hear your take.

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Does a low sale on your street kill your property value?

August 10, 2012 By Ryan Lundquist Leave a Comment

It can be a huge concern when you go to sell a property and a home down the street just sold for way less than what you planned to list your home for. Does this one sale hurt you? Sometimes lower sales will indeed harm your property value, but there are also reasons why lower sales might not pose a threat to your value. Here are a few things to keep in mind from an appraiser’s point of view:

  1. One sale doesn’t make or break the market: Appraisers need to consider multiple sales throughout the neighborhood and competitive market area. For instance, if one sale on your street closed at $250,000, but everything else has sold at $350,000, the lower sale is probably more of an outlier than anything. This one “lone ranger” doesn’t establish the trend of values in the neighborhood or trump all other sales either because it’s not consistent with the rest of the data (even if it’s the most recent sale). This assumes of course there has been no big issue to cause a dramatic decline in property value. On the other end, just because one sale closed $50,000 higher than everything else does not mean the market is now willing to accept all other properties at that level either. Outliers can be on the low end and high end of the market.
  2. Not all sales are “comps”: It’s easy to think of all sales as comps (comparable sales), but just because a property sold does not mean an appraiser is going to use the sale as a comp. After all, a “comp” is a property that a buyer would theoretically consider purchasing instead of yours because it is similar. If the sale down the street is 800 square feet smaller, has two less bedrooms or a lot half the size of yours, it’s probably not anything to sweat about because it may not even be grouped into the same comp pool by the appraiser (hopefully not – keep your fingers crossed). If there are no truly competitive sales though, the appraiser may need to use less comparable properties and then make adjustments up or down based on the market’s reaction to those differences. Ultimately, it’s usually better in my opinion to use older more similar sales and then make appropriate adjustments based on how the market has changed over time.
  3. Distressed sales: It’s important to sift through distressed inventory because these sales tend to close at lower levels. Real estate markets are often segmented with traditional sales at the highest level, and then bank-owned sales and short sales at lower levels. Sometimes there is a hefty difference of 10% or so between traditional sales and distressed sales, while other times the difference is minor or non-existent. The large price gap in many cases is often due to things like inferior condition, quick marketing to dump the asset or a swift sale to avoid seizure by the bank (short sale). Distressed sales don’t always sell at lower levels, but that’s often the case. In short, before you stress out about a low sale, realize a competent appraiser is going to analyze the lower distressed sale and either not use the sale or give it less weight in the report if need be.

Do these sales kill property value? I wanted to share these scenarios above to help show that a lower sale in the neighborhood may not always be a “value killer” because it’s not always reflective of the market. Bottom line. However, there are definitely scenarios when a lower sale is going to impact your property value. If a truly competitive property was listed on the market for a reasonable time and had a reasonable number of offers all around the list price, it’s hard to discount data like that (especially if it is widespread through the tract, which means the “lower” level might actually reflect the market). Moreover, sometimes home owners are not in touch with just how far the real estate market has declined in the Sacramento area (and throughout the United States). Keep in mind too some owners rely on valuation websites like Zillow, but there can be a huge difference between appraisals and Zillow.

Anything you’d like to add? Feel free to comment below. I’d be curious to hear the perspective of Realtors especially.

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