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Sellers, you don’t need 20 offers

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Sellers, getting twenty offers is the dream, right? That way you can be choosy about accepting the buyer with the strongest terms and probably a higher price too. But do you really need that many? In other words, can you get the same price with just a few offers? Let’s kick around this idea today.

THE SHORT VERSION:

1) No surprise. Getting more offers tends to lead to a higher sales price.
2) Sometimes just one offer can go way above the list price.
3) Homes with one offer also more regularly close way below the list price.
4) You don’t need 20 offers (but it sure does help).

THE LONGER VERSION:

Let’s look at some visuals and then consider some takeaways.

County Visuals: First off, I’m concerned these visuals are going to be confusing, so sorry if you’re thinking, “Dude, I only see dots and I have no idea what’s going on.” The goal is to show how much higher the sales price is compared to the original list price while considering the number of offers. Basically, when a dot is at 100%, it means a home sold at exactly the original list price. Or if a dot is at 110%, it sold 10% above the list price. Or 95% means it sold 5% lower than the original list price.

Question: What happens to prices when there are more offers?

The big plain truth: The truth is properties with more offers tend to close higher above the original list price than properties with fewer offers. Duh, I know we could have said that without the research, but it’s good to see what stats actually show rather than going with what we feel might be true. With that said, sometimes a home with just one offer can actually close at the same high percentage above the list price as a home with ten offers. So technically you don’t need ten to twenty offers to command a huge price (but it sure does help).

Neighborhood Visuals: Let’s check out some neighborhoods too instead of just the county. What do you see?

Conclusion: There are fewer data points to consider in the neighborhood visuals, but the takeaway is the same as the county (see above).

QUICK THOUGHTS:

1) 20 offers: If you’re getting 20 offers, it’s probably because you’re priced too low unless that’s what every listing is getting.

2) Aim for a few: Price it reasonably and you’re more likely to command a few solid offers and statistically be in the zone to compete above the list price. The reality is you don’t need 20 offers to get a huge price (but it helps).

3) Hang in there buyers: It’s not easy out there right now, but it’s worth noting not every sale is getting ten offers. It may feel true, but the stats don’t show it is.

4) Not everything is getting bid up: While many properties go 10% to 15% above the original list price, many homes sell below the list price. The narrative is Bay Area buyers are swooping in, paying cash, and everything is getting bid up, but that’s not true when looking at how many homes recently sold below the original list price (basically any dots below the 100% line).

5) Clear advantage: Having lots of offers gives sellers a huge advantage to be selective and accept contracts with the best terms (and probably higher prices).

6) Layers of the market: Not every price range is experiencing the same dynamic when it comes to multiple offers and getting bid up. This is why it’s so dangerous to take an experience with just one property and call it a trend for the market. Maybe. Maybe not.

I hope that was helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: How many offers do you think is ideal for a seller to get? Why are some listings able to command a huge price even though they only get one or two offers? What is it about those ones? Any other insight? I’d love to hear your take.

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Ch-ch-ch-change in neighborhoods

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Neighborhoods change. Sometimes they end up growing in a positive direction and other times they go downhill in a big way. Today I want to share a quick example of what I mean.

Million Dollar Sales: Here are two images to show million dollar sales in East Sacramento. Prices were definitely rising during both of these time periods, so they’re helpful for comparison. Prices declined during 2007 through 2011, so I didn’t include those years. What do you notice?

Two Observations:

1) More: Today we have more than three times the number of million dollar sales compared with the past cycle. This makes sense because prices in East Sac have generally surpassed where they were prior to the “bubble” bursting. Thus some of the growth is simply because of where prices are at today. 

2) Expansion: The million dollar market used to be concentrated almost exclusively in the Fab 40s and McKinley Park area, but it’s definitely expanded into other places. Over time we’ve seen lots of old homes torn down and rehabbed, and demand for the market has also increased. There is even a newer development called Sutter Park that is already fetching million dollar pending contracts in a location that has previously not seen that price point.

THE BIG TAKEAWAY: As neighborhoods change, so can value. In other words, just because value was one way in the past doesn’t mean it will be the same today. This is why over time we tend to see pockets of value emerge where buyers are willing to pay much than they used to. On the other hand it’s possible to see neighborhood decay where demand wanes and buyers tend to look elsewhere. I’ve written about the four stages of neighborhood life before, so I won’t rehash that much, but it’s so important to stay in tune with how markets are changing. Is the neighborhood growing? Is it stable? Is it in a stage of decay? Are we seeing rebirth? These are all good questions to ask.

Luxury Market Speaking Gig: I’m giving a presentation tomorrow at a luxury market event. I’ll likely share these two images as one of my talking points. Come by the event if you wish (I think you have to register).

What’s the market going to do? I was asked on Norm Shriever’s podcast recently about what the market is going to do in Sacramento over the next few years. In my mind these are some of the bigger points in this conversation.

Questions: What stands out to you about the images above? What sort of change have you seen in markets where buyers are willing to pay more or less? I’d love to hear any stories or examples.

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Appraisal waivers & the foreclosure wave

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I have two things on my mind today. Yesterday I had a conversation about appraisal waivers and “hybrid” appraisals, so I wanted to share my take. Then I have some new graphs to help tell the story of the foreclosure crisis.

APPRAISAL WAIVERS & “HYBRID” APPRAISALS:

Here’s a Q&A with with Scott Short on appraisal waivers and “hybrid” appraisals. I get things changing for appraisers in light of big data, but diminishing the role appraisers play seems like a bad idea for the housing market. Watch here. If you want to just hear the “hybrid” part, it’s at 7:12.

By the way, a local appraiser named Barry Cleverdon had an accident a few weeks ago and is currently in a coma. Here is Barry’s GoFundMe.

THE FORECLOSURE CRISIS:

1) Healing: The foreclosure rate in the United States is way down. I would guess most markets have essentially healed. In Sacramento County ten years ago 84% of sales were distressed and now that number is less than 2% when considering both short sales and bank-owned sales (REOs).

2) Not the same in every neighborhood: When it comes to distressed sales, some areas and price ranges did better than others as you can see below. This reminds us the market doesn’t experience the same exact trend everywhere.

3) The power of equity: Areas with more equity and higher prices tended to fare better with the number of distressed sales. I know that’s what we’d expect to see, but it’s interesting to actually see it. It’s amazing how equity (and probably better jobs) can create opportunity and even help people weather a storm.

4) The promise of a new wave: Many have promised a new wave of foreclosures, but we just haven’t seen it. I hear things like, “Dude, there are so many Notice of Defaults right now.” That may be true, but not all of these NODs end up hitting the market. Or if they do go into foreclosure they may likely be sold on the court steps before MLS.

Two weeks ago I asked friends on LinkedIn which areas they wanted to see, and that’s how this post was born. I didn’t get to everywhere, but I got to most areas.

MAKE GRAPHS LIKE THIS: If you want to know how to make a graph like this, here’s a tutorial for how to put a few different layers of data on one graph.

BLOG BASH: Just a reminder my wife and I are hosting a party at Yolo Brewing on Saturday March 2nd. It’s an excuse to get together and you’re invited. It’s okay if we’ve never met too. I’ll be buying the first 100 beers. Details here.

Questions: What do you think of appraisal waivers and “hybrid” appraisals? What stands out to you most in the images above?

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Seeing the market over two decades

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Buckle up and let’s take a drive through the past 20 years. Where has the market been over these two decades? Since MLS recently made it much easier to extract older data, I had to do this post. I hope you find it useful or interesting – even if you aren’t in the Sacramento market.

SOME THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND:

1) Data: We are only as good as our data and our ability to understand. Some graphs below are very clear in their trends, but others probably aren’t meaningful because of massive data or an enormous price range.

2) Not back: Many lower-priced areas are not back to their price peak in 2005.

3) Back: Some well-established areas have exceeded previous peaks.

4) Different trends: Not all price ranges, locations, and property types have moved the same way, so let’s be cautious about sweeping generalizations about the entire market. After all, the condo market might be far different from the 2-4 unit market or vacant land.

5) Inflation: Prices might be similar today to where they were in 2005, but that doesn’t mean values are the same. I know, that’s so technical, but when we factor in inflation over 13 years, it’s really not the same thing when comparing today’s prices with prices from 13 years ago. Keep in mind the market today has far different dynamics from 2005 also.

6) Bubble: Graphs like this can often lead to conversations about a housing “bubble.” If it’s relevant, please read peak prices and an open letter to buyers worried about another housing bubble.

SIDE NOTE: I’ve been having major website issues over the past 2 months. I’ve switched hosts, and that should solve the problem of down time.

DOWNLOAD ALL GRAPHS: You can download all images as a zip file. I included both a web-friendly size and larger ones. Please use as you see fit (unaltered). If you post somewhere online I always appreciate a link back.

Rosemont:

River Park:

Meadowview:

Vacant Residential Land:

Million Dollar Sales:

Pocket / Greenhaven:

Rancho Cordova:

Sierra Oaks:

Loomis:

East Sacramento:

Duplex Sales:

Gold River:

Land Park:

Elk Grove:

Garden of the Gods:

Sales under $50K in Sacramento County:

Del Paso Manor:

Tahoe Park:

Fair Oaks:

Treelake / Ashley Woods (Granite Bay):

Condo Sales in Sacramento County (and Downtown):

Colonial Heights:

College Glen:

Davis:

West Sacramento:

Bella Vista High School Boundaries:

Arden Park:

Folsom:

Arden Manor:

95815 Zip Code:

4-Unit Sales in Sacramento County:

Roseville:

I hope this was interesting or even fascinating. I’m intrigued and excited about having more data at my disposal (thank you Metrolist). Thanks everyone for your graph suggestions too. I reached out on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn and got to most of what people asked for, though I couldn’t do them all.

Questions: What are your thoughts about the market after seeing the graphs above? I’d love to hear your take.

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