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How will the pandemic shape buyers and sellers?

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How will this pandemic shape buyers and sellers? What will people do differently when it comes to real estate? Here are some things on my mind. What do you think? Please comment below.

Rural areas: I’ve heard data firms and colleagues talk about growing interest in rural areas, so this is something to watch to see if it pans out. The idea is people are craving more space, so they’ll embrace a country lifestyle.

Land: A friend the other day was talking about land on the outskirts of the region. Owning a couple acres for $20K is appealing in light of the idea of having more space. Here’s a list of thirty lots under $50K.

Family & Divorce: Some people may want to move closer to family while other households are going to be splitting due to divorce.

Buyers more sensitive about location & condition: For years buyers have been exhibiting sensitivity to adverse locations and homes that are not in pristine condition. In other words, buyers have higher expectations about what they are buying and they aren’t overlooking the true condition of a home or paying top dollar for junk. I expect going through a pandemic will only inflame this dynamic.

Accessory dwelling units: I’m guessing accessory dwelling units will be more useful and desirable for extra income as a rental, housing family members, helping friends who lost jobs, and working from home. Here are all sales in MLS over five years with a listed guest house (I may do a deeper post on this soon). Some of these properties of course had more of a pool house, but many do have a legit ADU / second-unit / apartment thingy.

Moving out of state: This pandemic may motivate people to finally make that move they’ve been talking about to a different county or state. I’ve heard some locals say things like, “I’m heading to Texas as soon as this ends.” And I imagine some Bay Area residents are declaring, “I’m going to Sacramento when this is over.” Migration has been a trend already, and we’ll see how it evolves.

Home office: We’ve all been having Zoom meetings and figuring out ways to work from home lately. I suspect many businesses will go back to normal, but some may adapt their model. Thus having dedicated space for working from home could prove to be more valuable over time. I don’t know that buyers at the moment are actually shopping with this in mind, but if we see a bigger change in business models this will be something that becomes more important.

Cash out at the top: Some people are concerned about the market changing directions, so we’ll see certain owners try to cash out at the top so to speak. I’m not saying we’re at the top of a price cycle. I’m only saying some people think the pandemic has pushed us or will push us into a new price cycle.

Downsize & Upsize: There are households in need of more space because they’ve learned their home is too small. In contrast, maybe it’s time for some to sell, buy a smaller home, and pocket cash (or invest in hand sanitizer and toilet paper).

Gardens: It seems like everyone and their Mom is either baking bread or starting a garden (except for my house). Thus I expect to see more gardens in coming time when visiting properties. The other day someone asked me if a one-acre parcel would now be more appealing because of all the extra space to start an urban farm. Well, in my mind most people are not looking to have a garden of that magnitude.

No effect at all: Let’s be real that lots of people will come out of this not doing anything differently.

Other: What else? I’d love to hear your take in the comments.

Okay, moving on.

FRESH STATS: 

Like I said last week, buyers are starting to get more used to this market, and this week it looks like pending contracts are on pace again to outpace the previous week (we’ll know more in a few days).

RESOURCES:

New market video: Here’s a fresh market update. It’s 20 minutes and I talk about the future (NOT a prediction video). Check it out below or here.

SAR market event (free): On Monday May 4th at 10am I’m doing a free big market update with the Sacramento Association of Realtors. This will be about an hour and it’s for anyone (not just members). Register here.

Videos this week: I’ve been doing lots of video conversations lately. I figured I would post the recorded ones here in case anyone wants to listen.

4/22/2020 Conversation with Madison Chase Team
4/24/2020 Conversation with Rico Rivera
4/24/2020 Conversation with Jenica Williams
4/27/2020 Conversation with Kristin Cooper

Appraiser John Carlson GoFundMe: John is a well-known appraiser in Southern California and he is going through a difficult time as he was diagnosed with cancer and hospitalized. I invite you to pray for him and donate if you can. See more here.

I hope this was interesting or helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: How do you think quarantining will shape buyers and sellers? What else would you add to the list? What did I miss?

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Are buyers & sellers getting used to the pandemic?

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Quarantine. Wearing masks. Social distancing. It’s so weird that these are regular things now. The world indeed has changed over the past month and so has the housing market. Let’s talk about some new developments.

FIVE WEEKS AGO: About five weeks ago the real estate market started to have a strong reaction to the coronavirus. I look to March 12th as our day of change as that’s when things started to kick into high gear with events cancelling and sellers and buyers backing off the market.

OBSERVATIONS RIGHT NOW:

1) Pendings and listings declined heavily for a few weeks.
2) Pending contracts have begun to increase again.
3) More new listings are hitting the market.

Here’s a closer look at the numbers. These are single family detached homes without condos. I don’t include condos because they’re a different market that can water down the data. If you include them in your numbers, that’s cool.

Here is a look at new listings. There has not been a dramatic uptick, but we are seeing more new listings compared to a month ago (the first week we had sheltering in place). 

SOME CLOSING THOUGHTS:

1) Goodbye cliches, hello experts: In a market like today it forces us to place our cliches, canned statements, predictions, and positive or doomy narratives aside. We simply must look to the numbers to understand the market. When trends change it creates opportunities for experts to arise. It also creates opportunity for credibility to be destroyed by making predictions that don’t come true and getting swept up in every single sensational headline.

2) Other markets too: This dynamic of the market seeming to hit a bottom a few weeks ago is something that is happening in some other areas across the country too as reported by Mike DelPrete in his email yesterday (a must follow). I’ll talk about this more in my weekly video at the end of this week. Please know I’m not saying prices or other metrics have bottomed out. I’m only saying it looks like listings and pendings (for now) have begun to increase again.

3) The future: We still don’t know the future, so I’d exercise caution in saying definitively the market has begun a recovery or rebound and will move forward from this point onward. We need time to see how everything shakes out and we’re still living in the midst of so many unknown factors that could sway the market in many ways. The reality is what we say about the market could be different next week based on new data.

4) Getting used to the pandemic: For now it looks like buyers and sellers have started to get a little more used to this pandemic market, which is evidenced by more pending contracts and an increase of listings lately. It’s possible some of this could be attributed to real estate agents being deemed essential too. Will this continue? Is this a trend we’ll see more in coming weeks? To be determined. 

GRAPHS: I plan to make a tutorial soon on how to make a few of the graphs I’ve been posting. Appraiser colleagues, I haven’t forgotten.

I hope this was helpful.

Okay, moving on:

RESOURCES:

New market video: Here is a fresh market update video. This is 25 minutes and perfect for the background while working. Check it out below or here.

 

Interview with The Appraiser Coach: I did an interview with Dustin Harris to talk about not waiting for sales to see pandemic data. Watch below (or here).

Interview with Brad: I did a Facebook Live Q&A with Brad L’Engle last week to talk shop. Enjoy here if you wish (you don’t need Facebook to watch). 

I hope this was interesting or helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: What do you make of the stats above? What are you hearing in escrows from buyers and sellers? If you’re not local, what are you seeing happen in your market?

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Thoughts on PG&E and the housing market

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I’ve been asked quite a bit to talk about what’s happening with PG&E. It’s mind-blowing to think close to one million households have had spurts without electricity lately in California. I don’t think anyone saw this curveball coming, so let’s talk about it. Please pitch in your thoughts below too.

Here are a few things on my mind.

Prolonged vs isolated incident: Whenever something changes in a market we tend to immediately ask about the impact, but the truth is we don’t always have answers – especially at first. It’s important to remember a few power outages aren’t likely to alter the perception of sellers and buyers in a market. But if we begin to see a prolonged issue, then that’s a different story.

The market will adapt: Generators haven’t been easy to find in the Sacramento area despite all the radio ads, but at some point if power outages become prolonged the market will simply adapt and generators will become commonplace. Thus properties with some sort of system to retain power are going to be more marketable. Remember though, if a generator isn’t a permanent part of the house, it’s really personal property, so it’s not going to be included in the appraised value.

Uncertainty: People like stability and so does the housing market. A friend in a rural area recently said she doesn’t know if she can take PG&E outages for the next ten years. I feel for her and I think her sentiment captures the struggle many residents have right now of living in the tension of not knowing the future.

The market hasn’t stopped: It’s important to note the housing market hasn’t stopped. There are still properties trading hands. In fact, here’s current pendings in Placer, El Dorado, and Nevada County. I realize this isn’t the perfect image because only portions of these counties are having outages. Nonetheless, this is a quick glance to highlight the market is still moving. With that said, we’re at the beginning stage of this new issue and my sense is we’re in a stand-by period where owners and buyers are watching and waiting to see what the future holds.

Migration: Unplanned power outages could drive some residents to leave rural areas (or even suburban areas having issues). I think this is especially true for anyone who has already been flirting with the idea of leaving California. This could be the final straw. But for many rural owners they’re going to stay because they love their lifestyle (of course as long as there are solutions for keeping the power on during outages).

Solar: There’s lots of buzz about solar becoming a bigger trend in outlying areas. My advice? Just be sure the solar system is actually going to work if the power is out. And don’t make a rash decision about installing an expensive solar system if there is a more cost-effective solution too.

Insurance costs: Fire insurance has skyrocketed in outlying areas in recent time and it’s been a huge struggle. Just yesterday I had a real estate agent tell me a client was paying about $800 for an annual insurance plan and now the bill is $3,000 for the year. What a burden – especially for those with a fixed or lower income. Thus throwing in a new layer of power outages really doesn’t help boost appeal for outlying areas. Insurance is certainly a hardship, but at least it is a known factor. What is especially challenging with power outages is their frequency in the future is not known. This is where an element of uncertainty can be more stressful than insurance costs for some households.

Stories vs stats: When something new happens in a market there is a season where we have stories from the trenches of escrows and eventually these stories become stats. In my opinion right now we have limited data and we need more time to understand what the market is doing. With that said, when it comes to areas with rising insurance rates I’m noticing housing supply has ticked up at a higher rate in El Dorado County compared with the rest of the region, and sales volume has seemed to slump more in El Dorado County also. This includes the entire county of course and at some point I may parse only fire insurance areas (this is not as easy to do as it sounds). Anyway, let’s keep watching.

I hope this was helpful. I’m so sorry to friends who have been struggling with power outages. By the way, if any appraiser friends need space to plug into wifi if your power goes out, please hit me up.

Million Dollar Market: On a different note, here’s a quick rundown of the million dollar market in the Sacramento region if you’re interested.

Questions: If you live in PG&E territory, what have you been experiencing? What are you hearing from residents? What did I miss?

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The coming recession & the housing market

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The coming recession is a huge topic right now and lots of people are wondering about the effect on home prices. What’s going to happen to the housing market? Will we see another crash? Here are a few thoughts on my mind right now. Anything to add? Please comment below.

Last time isn’t the new template: The collapse of the economy during the last recession isn’t the new template for how every future recession and housing market will unfold. I’ve heard things like, “I’m so ready for this recession because I’m going to buy low after values tank.” But prices don’t always crash during a recession as you can see in the images below.

Severity matters: It’s hard to think the housing market is going to be swayed much if it’s a quick recession. But if buyers and sellers end up struggling financially and losing jobs, we can expect a greater effect on home prices (thanks Captain Obvious). The thing is we don’t know right now how severe of a recession we’re going to have, so that’s why we can’t say exactly what the housing market will do.

Consumer behavior: One thing we need to watch is consumer behavior. How will consumers think and act differently in coming time about their purchasing decisions? As I talked about last week, during a recession builders actually tend to build smaller homes since consumers tighten up their finances. This reminds us the way consumers think and act can certainly shape real estate.

Locations aren’t the same: It’s nice to see what national price metrics have done during various recessions, but national numbers can show a different trend than local data.

What do prices do during a recession? Sometimes prices have gone down and other times they’ve gone up during (or after) a recession. There’s not a one-size-fits-all answer. In Sacramento at least most of the time there’s been a price dip during or after a recession. If you’re looking for some historical data in your market, I suggest you check out the Freddie Mac Price Index.

During & After: I’ve seen some images that show home prices have appreciated during three of the past 5 recessions. That may be technically true on the national level, but we have to be sure to look at local stats. Moreover, let’s not narrow our focus to only ask what happens during a recession. What about afterward? What do you see in the images below? 

UPDATE (OCTOBER 2019): I put together a quick presentation to download to help zoom in on various local recessions since these images show a more panoramic view. Enjoy if you wish.

UNITED STATES:

CALIFORNIA:

SACRAMENTO:

Don’t get too stuck on prices: When we think about a recession, let’s of course watch prices, but the bigger story will likely be found in what happens to the number of sales. Are buyers playing the market or are they backing off? In short, let’s not forget to watch sales volume because we’re so obsessed with prices.

The inverted yield curve (and hesitancy): Lots of people are talking about the inverted yield curve as an indicator of a coming change in the economy. For now I don’t hear buyers saying things like, “Maybe I shouldn’t buy because of the inverted yield curve…” Okay, I’m joking in part because most buyers aren’t going to be making a decision based on this metric. But to be fair there’s been a sincere hesitancy among some buyers because they feel uncertain about what the future market is going to do. By the way, thanks to Alex on Twitter for the “inverted” Top Gun reference. This is golden.

Hype: Everyone has a take right now and there is lots of hype about what the market will or won’t do when a recession hits. Some preach doom and gloom and others are doing their best to paint a rosy view of housing. My advice? Let’s do our best to let the actual market influence what we are saying about the market instead of getting caught up in someone’s talking points or agenda.

Making predictions: There are many predictions about a coming recession, and at some point one will happen. But predicting recession specifics is a bit like predicting housing market specifics. At the end of the day we might have ideas, but we don’t know the exact future until it happens.

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

BIG MARKET UPDATE I’M GIVING: I’ll be giving a deep market update at SAR on September 24th from 10:30-12:00pm. My goal is for everyone to walk away with an understanding of how the market is moving, ways to describe it, and some ideas for business in 2020. Sign up here.

Questions: What has been your experience with real estate and recessions? What are you hearing from buyers and sellers right now? Any stories to share?

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