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The problem of not listening in a slower market

September 12, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 9 Comments

It’s not easy to listen when the market is slowing. This is true for sellers taking in pricing advice, and it’s also true for the average person reading national headlines. Let’s talk about this. Then for those interested I have a big market update. Anything to add?

Sellers not listening: All year it seems sellers have struggled to listen to pricing advice from their real estate agents. I guess I can understand because they’ve had nothing but “hot” headlines for six years. But I think there’s another issue too. Maybe we’re seeing some of the effect of sellers having more real estate data at their disposal than ever because of Zillow, Redfin, Metrolist, blogs… So right or wrong, we have sellers who now they think they know better than anyone. Whatever the case, sellers are making real mistakes out there by not listening to pricing advice and instead pricing for a much hotter market than we actually have. In case it’s useful, I wrote an article in Comstock’s magazine with some practical advice for sellers.

Listening to national headlines: There have been sensational headlines about the market beginning to crash, and it’s difficult at times to think past these headlines and be objective. Let’s remember though that headlines are designed to get clicks, and a headline may or may not mean anything for a local market. My advice? Don’t let any headline cloud your judgement of local trends.

Listening without enough context: This sounds like such a geeky point, but hang in here with me because it matters. Lots of times in real estate we end up comparing the current year with the previous year, and that’s actually a good thing. But my sense is we’re missing something if we pay too much attention to last year only and ignore prior years. In Sacramento at least it’s been a few seasons since we’ve had a dull fall, so it’s easy to forget what that feels like. Moreover, if we look at current inventory levels beginning to push a two-month housing supply, that looks huge compared to the past couple years. But if we look at inventory from 2014 when we had a dull fall season, it was hovering between 2 to 2.75 months at the time. This reminds us it’s possible to have higher inventory at this time of year without the market utterly tanking. I don’t say this to diminish the importance of rising housing supply right now, but only to highlight the need to look to a few more years of data as we interpret what is happening. After all, sometimes pulling stats is like pulling comps. If we only look at the past 90 days of sales, that might not be enough. At times we need a much wider view to really see the market. The same thing happens with real estate data. Know what I’m saying?

I hope that was helpful. Do you “hear” what I’m saying?

—–——– Big local monthly market update (long on purpose) —–——–

The market has been slowing. Duh, we know that. Everyone’s talking about it. Let me unpack what I mean below with some comments on some of the bigger themes right now:

Coffee vs. skimming: This post has lots of information. It’s designed to skim until you find something you want to read, or pour a cup of coffee and really spend some time digesting stuff.

BIG ISSUES IN SACRAMENTO:

Prices softening: Most price metrics in the region softened between 1-2% last month, though the median price in Sacramento County was flat. Around this time of year we normally see prices dip (as graphs show below).

Slowing momentum: We know the market is slowing for the season, but it’s also slowing down in terms of overall momentum. What I mean is in years past we’d look at stats and see price metrics were up a good 8-10% over the year, but these days they’re only up closer to 4-6% instead.

Slowing rent: Rent growth has been flattening lately, which is a good thing since rents sprinted way ahead of actual wage growth. Keep in mind this doesn’t mean rents have declined. It just seems the rent trend is flattening.

Sales volume is not crashing: One of the bigger issues to watch to know if a market is crashing is a change in sales volume. In other words, if properties stop selling, we have a big problem. Last month sales volume was down about 6% in the region and 2.6% in Sacramento County. Uh oh, is that a warning sign? Look, this is important to watch over time to know if we have a trend on our hands, but before making too much of one month of data, let’s look to the bigger picture. The truth is sales volume is actually higher so far this year in the region than last year and it’s up 1% in Sacramento County too. No mater how we look at it, volume has actually been strong. This isn’t spin, but fact. Please see my charts below. So on one hand let’s watch these next months carefully because it could be a problem if monthly sales volume does start to come in lower, but let’s also not give laser focus to a weaker August while ignoring the bigger context either.

Inventory is definitely up: It’s really noticeable to see more inventory right now. Even my non-real estate wife has said she’s seeing more listings when driving around town. Housing supply is actually up 25% compared to the same time last year, and it’s literally the first time in three years since we’ve had more than a two-month supply of homes for sale. Obviously if the rate of increase keeps climbing and the market doesn’t absorb new listings, we could have a problem on our hands. But let’s also remember when the market was very dull in the fall of 2014 we saw inventory hover between 2 to 2.75 months at the time.

Taking longer to sell: It took five days longer to sell last month compared to the month before. And this year it took 4 day longer than last year at the same time. So the market has slowed down from last year, but it’s definitely slowing from the past few months too. Sellers, did you hear that? You are losing power in this market and buyers are gaining it. My advice? Price according to listings that are actually getting into contract rather than the highest glowing sales from the spring. This week I talked with an agent about the market feeling really soft in a particular area because listings weren’t moving. But sometimes I wonder if it’s the market or just overpriced listings. From my vantage point almost every listing in the neighborhood was priced 5-10%+ too high, so it wasn’t a real shocker they weren’t selling.

I could write more, but let’s get visual instead.

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BIG QUESTIONS:

1) How did the market change from last year?

2) How did the market change from July to August?

3) Is sales volume really crashing right now?

4) How does the current market compare to the previous peak?

2005 vs CURRENT: A few months ago I talked about peak prices because some metrics were showing 2005 levels. But with the market softening right now prices are growing further apart from the “top” so to speak.

SACRAMENTO COUNTY (more graphs here):

SACRAMENTO REGION (more graphs here):

PLACER COUNTY (more graphs here):

I hope that was helpful.

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Questions: Do you think sellers are struggling to listen right now? What are you seeing out there in the market? I’d love to hear your take.

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How much does a previous purchase matter to appraisers?

August 28, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 19 Comments

How much does a previous purchase matter? Do appraisers give strong weight to the purchase price? Or do they completely ignore it? This is an important conversation, especially in the midst of so much talk about the market changing.

1) Meaningless: Sometimes a previous purchase is meaningless. That’s not always happy news, but if a property sold for too little or too much, it just might not mean much to us today. As an example, it doesn’t make sense to give any real value weight to a short sale that closed way too low or an inflated purchase that was clearly disconnected from the market and not supported by data.

2) Strong weight: If a property sold recently and it was a reasonable price, appraisers might actually give strong weight to the sale. If you didn’t know, appraisers are actually allowed to use a previous sale of the subject property as a “comp” in an appraisal report too (usually Comp #4). That might seem strange to do, but then again what is more comparable than the subject property itself? Of course let’s be careful about understanding exactly how the market and property have changed since the sale though.

3) Someone overpaid: One thing we have to consider before giving too much weight to a previous sale is whether it was a reasonable representation of value or not at the time. It can be dangerous to blindly accept a sale without understanding the full story of why it sold at the level it did. On that note, my observation is at times cash buyers fall prey to overpaying on the higher end of the market where comps are a little more sparse and it’s not always easy to see value. Here’s an example I just tweeted about this morning:

4) Seeing the context: Sometimes a previous purchase is an incredible way to understand how a property fits into the market. In the graph below I have three previous sales in the Stollwood area of Carmichael, and each time the subject property competed at about the same price position. That’s powerful, right? So in this case I would likely give strong weight to the previous sales because they help me understand value.

FYI: Here is a tutorial if you want to learn how to make a graph like this.

Quick closing thoughts:

1) The temptation: It’s easy to get stuck on a previous purchase price and not see the current market because we think, “It has to be worth at least X amount because it sold for Y amount in the past.” Be careful of that. We have to be objective by giving the most weight to the current market.

BIG POINT: As some wonder if the market will make a big turn at some point, this conversation could be very relevant if that did happen.

2) Ch-ch-ch-change: The market could have changed since the subject sold previously. Values could have increased or softened. The subject could have been in better or worse condition too.

3) Different trends: Sometimes I hear things like, “It sold in 2016 and the market has increased 15% since then, so it must be worth 15% more now.” The problem is market trends aren’t the same at every price level. Maybe the lowest prices in town have seen increases like that, but price changes could be more subtle at higher levels. So let’s be cautious not to project a more aggressive trend from a lower range on a higher one.

4) Distressed: I find looking to older sales from the foreclosure days isn’t all that helpful because the market was not normal then and properties were selling all over the place. I usually recommend researching previous sales, but when they’re from the distressed days we often have to take them with a grain of salt. The same thing is true for stuff that sold in 2005 at inflated prices.

5) Boldness: Appraisers and agents sometimes have to tell clients why value is actually lower than a prior purchase. That’s not always easy to hear, but we have to be bold and let the numbers speak rather than putting weight on a previous sale that might not reflect the market today.

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

Questions: Which point stands out to you the most? Any stories to share or other points? I’d love to hear your take

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How would you know if the market was starting to tank?

August 14, 2018 By Ryan Lundquist 28 Comments

Is the market starting to tank? Or is it just a seasonal slowing? I’m getting asked this question all the time, so I wanted to share some thoughts. Then I have a big local market update for anyone interested.

How would you know if the market was sliding? I wish this was a 10-second answer, but it’s a big conversation, so let’s unpack some thoughts.

1) Change in inventory: It’s normal for housing inventory to increase as a market begins to cool for the season, but when a market starts to make a big turn we’d likely notice new listings aren’t being absorbed and the number of listings keeps growing beyond a normal pace.

2) Change in sales volume: Sales volume usually slows down as the market cools, but during a big shift we’d expect to see a more substantial change in sales volume over time. I’m talking about a market where buyers put on the brakes and properties stop selling. Currently in many areas throughout the country we’re seeing some smaller changes in sales volume. Could it be the start of something? Sure. But in my mind we need more time to see if this is a consistent pattern or just a slower end of the year.

3) Word on the street: What are people saying? How does the market feel in the trenches? We can learn so much when talking with informed local buyers, sellers, agents, appraisers, and other real estate professionals. Ask things like, “What are you seeing out there?”, or “What’s the market doing?” This is important because before we see a change in stats we’ll hear of change in the trenches. As an FYI, here’s a Twitter poll from a few days ago.

4) Less pendings: When a market starts to slide we can expect to see less pending sales, which is a big sign of waning demand. Let’s just remember though around this time of year we usually see fewer pendings as the market cools. This means we have to be cautious about saying the market is crashing just because pendings soften. My advice? Look for abnormal changes beyond a regular seasonal dip in pending sales.

5) Price changes aren’t the big issue: When a market shifts directions we often look to prices to tell us if things are changing, but it takes time for prices to catch up with the trend. For example, in Sacramento in 2005 we saw housing inventory triple and sales volume drop 43% in one year. Yikes! Those are insane stats, but price changes weren’t all that dramatic during this time period.

6) Other metrics: Lots of experts say to watch the number of new homes built as an indicator of the market changing. That’s huge. Others say it’s the GDP or economy, easy credit, housing affordability index, or flux capacitor sales (kidding on that one). There are definitely important indicators out there, and we should tune in, but for a local market I might suggest paying the most attention to inventory, sales volume, and the word on the street. If new construction is booming in your market though, definitely watch that too.

7) A closing dating analogy: Just like a dating relationship needs time to figure out what it’s going to be become, the same thing happens in real estate. Right now in many areas of the country we’re seeing inventory increase and sales volume starting to slump. At the least these are signs of a slowing market for the season, but it also makes us wonder if it’s something more. What does it really mean? Where will things go? The truth is we don’t fully know yet because the future hasn’t happened and we need more time to see how things unfold. I realize that’s frustrating to hear, but it’s honest.

CLOSING TIPS:

1) Crystal balls: If you don’t have a crystal ball that works, be careful about making very specific real estate predictions.

2) Watch local data closely: More than ever it’s critical to watch local data. Lots of articles are talking about “national” trends, but what’s happening locally?

3) Don’t just regurgitate headlines: It’s easy to read headlines and let the titles become our talking points. Be careful of that since headlines are designed to get clicks and they may or may not reflect the market.

4) Know the season: It’s not always easy to understand what a market is doing at this time of year when things usually slow down. My advice? Understand normal seasonal trends by studying past years. What does the market normally do at this time of year? This will help us spot normal vs abnormal trends.

I hope that was helpful.

—–——– Big local monthly market update (long on purpose) —–——–

The market has been slowing for the past few months in Sacramento. We’re seeing what we’d expect to see at this time of the year like softer prices, more price reductions, a lower sales-to-list price ratio, and it’s taking longer to sell. We’ve had a hefty uptick in housing inventory though, and that’s something to watch – especially if it continues over time (that would be a problem). But for context, housing inventory is actually still historically low, so it’s not like we have a crazy high level right now. Some have wondered if the market is a bit stalled right now, but sales volume is still looking pretty strong and so are pendings. But I’d say there is some shock in the market because of the rise in inventory. Keep in mind one of the problems is so many sellers are overpricing, and that only makes inventory increase because these properties end up sitting instead of selling. On the other hand homes that are priced well are moving quickly, and 48% of all sales in the region last month had more than one offer. So despite a slowing narrative, the market isn’t painfully dull either.

I could write more, but let’s get visual instead.

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JULY 2017 vs JULY 2018: So how did this past month do? One of the ways we find the answer is to compare last month with the same month in 2017.

JUNE 2018 vs JULY 2018 (NEW CHARTS): The problem is if we only look at July this year versus July last year, we’ll miss what the market is doing right now. So that’s why I have new charts to show the previous month vs the most recent month. But there’s still an issue because if we only look at this chart and don’t understand that the market normally softens around this time of year, we might walk away with the idea that the market is utterly tanking when it’s normal to see inventory increase, sales volume decline, etc… Look at graphs below to help see seasonal changes (or check out this older YouTube video where I talk about seeing the seasonal market).

SALES VOLUME: One of the things we need to watch is sales volume because if we start to see a trend of slumping sales, it could be a sign the market is in trouble. The truth is we’ve technically had a couple of months in a row of lower sales volume in the region. But volume was only off by 4% in June and it was barely off at all this past month (which is why I said “technically”). When you really look at it, sales volume this year in 2018 so far has been stronger than last year. But when we look at the past 12 months as a whole it’s clear volume is down (still only slightly though). Ultimately volume is not crashing right now based on the stats, so let’s be careful about saying it is.

NOTE on Trendgraphix: I have some thoughts on the way Trendgraphix is pulling stats. This month their stats show sales volume in Sacramento County is down by 6%, but that’s not accurate. I can explain why if anyone wants to know. And I love Trendgraphix. What an incredible resource. I just find when we’re looking at the market carefully in a time like this, it’s critical to know how the numbers work.

2005 vs CURRENT: In case you wanted to compare current price metrics with 2005, here you go. A couple of months ago I talked about peak prices because some metrics were showing 2005 levels. But with the market softening right now we’ll expect over the fall season to see current prices grow further apart from the “top” so to speak.