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What appraisers think about increasing the contract price to cover closing costs

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Is it going to be an appraisal problem if the buyer asks for a 3% credit back? Well, let me back up. Let’s imagine the original offer was $300,000, but through written negotiation the price has now increased to $310,000 with a $10,000 credit back to the buyer. Is that an issue? Here’s some quick thoughts.

1) Yeah, it looks bad: In some senses I think many of us would subjectively look at a situation like this and think, “Yeah, it looks bad. It seems like the price was just inflated so the seller can net more money.”

2) Contract vs market: While it’s easy to judge situations like this, we have to remember value is not found in the contact. It’s found in the market. Thus as an appraiser I need to be objective about contract negotiations. Even if I think the contract price was inflated to help the seller net more money, I still need to objectively look to the market for the proof of value. In other words, are similar properties selling around $310,000 without credits and concessions? If so, then value looks strong at $310,000. Maybe the buyer and seller were originally in contract too low, so it would be a shame for me to have put more weight on the contract than looking to the market for the answers. Yet if all the comps and pendings are at $300,000 or less, then value isn’t really supported at $310,000. Thus just because it would be convenient for a buyer or seller to negotiate the price up does not mean value is there.

3) After the contract: Sometimes a buyer and seller will negotiate a contract price up after the appraisal is already finished. Then the appraiser is asked to consider changing the appraised value. My advice? Do your price negotiations up before the appraiser gets involved. I think most appraisers are not going to amend the value to “hit” the new contract price after post-appraisal negotiations.

I hope that was interesting or helpful.

Questions: Anything else to add to the conversation? Did I miss something? I’d love to hear your take.

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Multiple offers & paying above the appraised value

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It’s getting a little crazy out there. Let’s talk about multiple offers and buyers paying above the appraised value. I want to give some perspective from the lens of an appraiser, and I’d love to hear your take. Any thoughts?

MULTIPLE OFFERS: The other day I heard about a property that had 20 offers and the contract price ended up being 16% above the list price. What the? Clearly the market was willing to pay more than the list price, so maybe the property was priced too low. Yet if the seller accepted the very highest offer, are there really comps and data to support a value that high? That’s always the question. Here are some things to keep in mind.

1) Magic: Appraisers aren’t magicians. They have to support the value they say exists. Sometimes appraisers are told, “There were 20 offers above list price,” and maybe that says something about value, but appraisers still have to use actual comps and adjustments in a report instead of the number of offers.

There are multiple offers above list price.
Are there multiple comps above list price?

2) Getting stuck on the list price: It’s important for appraisers to be cautious not to give too much weight to the list price because sometimes it really doesn’t reflect value at all. It might seem like a red flag for a property to be in contract 16% above the list price, but what if the property was priced 16% too low? Moreover, if the sales and pendings all support a value 16% higher, then it’s a no-brainer to see the appraisal come in at that level. But if nothing is anywhere close to the contract price, then maybe the property got bid up too high.

3) One Buyer vs everyone: There might be one buyer willing to pay more than anyone for whatever reason, but market value is about what the market will pay. If a bank is going to lend on a property, it’s a good bet to lend on market value rather than one individual buyer’s perception of value. 

4) Offering high: Let’s remember some buyers make offers based on the amount they are qualified to borrow rather than looking at the comps. This reminds us sometimes high offers don’t always mean value is there. 

5) Offers as data for appraisers: The number of offers can be helpful for appraisers. If we know there were 20 offers above list price and it looks like value is going to come in lower, then the number of offers can at least prod appraisers to dig deeper to understand value. In other words, if 20 buyers are willing to pay more, but I’m coming in lower, I better be ready to explain why. Appraisers can also use the number of offers as supplementary data. So an appraiser might write in a report, “I gave Comps 1-2 the most weight because they were most similar, and 10 of the 20 offers were at contract price or above, which also helps support the opinion of value.”

PAYING ABOVE THE APPRAISED VALUE: I’m hearing more from agents about contracts where the buyer says, “We’ll pay $10,000 above the appraised value.” This tends to happen in a market with low inventory and when buyers feel desperate about getting an offer accepted. Anyway, when I read a buyer is willing to pay above the appraised value, my gut reaction is to think the buyer probably believes the contract price is too high. Can you relate? Yet I’m paid to be objective, so I cannot let what a buyer wrote in a contract influence my conclusion of value. Besides, to be fair, contract verbiage like this might be about a buyer trying to get an offer accepted rather than what a buyer believes about value. Ultimately it’s crucial to remember support for value is found in the market with comps and data rather than what a buyer writes in a contract (this is why I recommend agents to communicate well with appraisers).

Radio Interview: By the way, I had a 35-minute conversation last week on a financial radio show. If you need some background noise, check it out here.

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Questions: Anything else to add to the conversation? Did I miss something? I’d love to hear your take.

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Does it help appraisers when agents increase the pending price in MLS?

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Does it help appraisers when agents increase the pending price in MLS for the subject property? In other words, if a house was listed at $400,000, but gets into contract at $415,000, does it help if the pending price is changed to $415,000 in MLS? This might seem like a silly topic, but I get asked this question all the time, and it seems like many believe this makes a difference for value. Here’s my opinion, and I welcome your two cents also.

Quick Answer: First off, sometimes agents think appraisers only look at the pending price, but appraisers make it a point to view the entire listing history. If you didn’t know, the Fannie Mae appraisal form actually asks appraisers to input the complete pricing history of the subject property into the appraisal. The appraisal report therefore records the original list price, any price changes, and the pending price. So it’s not like the appraiser or lender is blind to the fact the subject property was originally listed for less and is now in contract for more. In short, upping the list price for the subject property doesn’t help the appraisal come in higher or do anything for value. We have to remember the proof of value is found in the comps instead of whether the list price in MLS was increased or not for the subject property. However, on a different but related note it can be useful when appraisers are choosing comps and they see other pendings in the neighborhood getting into contract at higher levels. After all, pending sales showing higher prices might help us see the market is increasing or even help us make upward time adjustments. So while this practice of changing the list price in MLS for the subject property doesn’t do anything for value, in my mind it can be useful when looking at other pending sales in the neighborhood to see if everything is getting bid up or in contract at higher levels.

Three questions:

  1. What is the goal of this practice?
  2. If this practice is not done when the property is in contract for less, why should it be done when the property is in contract for more?
  3. If this happens in mass could it screw up data in any way?

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

Questions: What is your opinion on this practice? Is it a good idea or not? I’d love to hear your take.

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Does paying off Mello Roos early increase value?

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What happens when an owner pays off Mello Roos early? Does that mean the property can sell for more? Let’s talk about that. If you’re not in California, just know Mello Roos are taxes imposed on newly constructed communities to help pay for infrastructure like streets, schools, and parks. So over a period of usually 20 years, the owner might have an extra $1,000 or so in taxes to pay each year.

Scenario: Imagine an owner has $20,000 in Mello Roos taxes over the next 20 years and decides to pay them off right now instead of waiting. Is the house now worth $20,000 more?

Things to consider about value & paying off Mello Roos:

1) Expecting the full $20,000: When sellers do something to their property, they often expect buyers to pick up the tab of whatever the price was. This is true for kitchen remodels, landscaping, bathrooms, and even Mello Roos. In this case the seller would expect a buyer to pay $20,000, but that’s probably not realistic.

2) Logic & 20 years of payments: Buyers often stay in homes for less than 10 years, so it’s unrealistic to think most buyers are going to pay for the future savings of 20 years worth of tax payments in one instant. That’s disappointing to sellers, but doesn’t it make sense? It’s just not logical for someone to fully reimburse the seller for a bill they might not actually be paying for the next 20 years. Side note: This reminds us of solar a bit because buyers probably aren’t going to pay the full cost of the system in one instant either.

3) Comps & adjustments: A property with no Mello Roos payments is going to have a marketing edge at the least because it’s essentially less expensive to buy the house compared to others. At best there could be some value there too, though it’s going to be hard for an appraiser to support a Mello Roos adjustment because it’s not easy to find comps where sellers have paid them off. In an ideal world we’d have three model match sales without Mello Roos so we can analyze whether these homes really sold for more or not. If we don’t have sales, but it seems clear the market is willing to pay more based on the number of offers, price level of offers, feedback from agents, logic, data from other neighborhoods, etc…, we can always look at the range of value in the neighborhood for similar homes and choose to reconcile the subject at a higher tier of value. Thus it’s important to realize appraisers might not always give a specific adjustment, but they can still recognize an asset by reconciling the final value to a higher level (if there is support to do that). It would be nice if there was one quick formula we could apply to spit out a perfect adjustment here, but formulas wouldn’t work in every neighborhood, price range, or market. Like all things in real estate, we have to know how to think through issues and then look to the market for the answers.

I hope this was interesting or helpful.

Questions: Would you recommend paying off Mello Roos? Have you seen a value increase because of Mello Roos being paid off? Anything to add to the conversation?

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