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Everything is selling $100K over the list price (not really)

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The market is nuts and everything is selling $100K over the list price!! We hear that quite a bit, but how true is it? Today I have some new visuals to help answer this question. If you’re not local, would your market look similar?

Two brand new visuals. What do you see?

Below the list price: This visual adds sales below the list price and at the list price. Remember, over 22% of sales sold either at or below their original list price last month. That’s actually an astounding number because it really should be about twice as high as that in a normal market. But here’s the big point. Not everything literally sells above the asking price – even in this crazy market.

Breaking down the numbers: I know it would be cool to see these types of stats throughout various price ranges. If someone hires me full-time to crunch numbers I promise I’ll share that stuff. For now here is a regional overview.

A property really sold $340K above the list price? Yes, a property in Granite Bay listed at $1,995,000 and closed at $2,335,000, which is a difference of $340,000. Most of the outliers paying hundreds of thousands over the asking price are in the luxury market. But remember, literally 0.77% of all sales went $200K above asking.

The big takeaway: It’s shocking to see nearly one out of every three sales go fifty thousand or more above the original asking price. That’s a sensational stat and clearly a symptom of a lopsided market. But let’s get technical. About two-thirds of all sales are not selling $50K above the list price and selling $100K above is such a small sliver of the market. I’m not trying to minimize how competitive it is. I’m just saying only 6.3% of the market was able to sell $100K above the list price, which means 93.7% of the market didn’t do that.

Closing advice: Let the stats form your narrative and always be careful about letting sensational sales form your perception of the market. And sellers, don’t aim for a unicorn situation that only happens in a handful of transactions. 

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Questions: What stands out to you or surprises you above the stats above? What are you seeing out there in the trenches?

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Goodbye California. Is everyone leaving?

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Everyone is leaving California. Well, it feels like it. But what do the stats actually say? Let’s talk about it. This is so important for real estate professionals in particular to understand because it helps us talk about the market and plan for the future. Any stories to share? Please comment below. 

1) Where are California residents moving?

Last year 653,551 residents left the state according to the American Community Survey. Here are the top destinations of where California residents are moving. Keep in mind 2020 data is not out yet. I included the top states below. If I had all fifty states on one graph it would be too big. Does anything surprise you?

2) Who is coming to California?

There is so much news about people leaving California, but we have quite a few people coming to the state too. Last year in 2019 there were 480,204 people who moved to California. It’s interesting that many residents moving here are from some of the top destination states.

3) Where are Californians MOVING THE LEAST?

This visual shows the locations where California residents moved the least in 2019. Does anything surprise you?

4) How can the population still be growing with so many leaving?

Last year we saw more people leave than come to California and that’s been the trend for at least ten years according to the American Community Survey (without considering international migration). So how is our population still growing? Well, in short we’ve had more births to offset the numbers. This is really important because we often hear things like, “Dude, our population keeps growing, so clearly we don’t have more people leaving. That’s just a made-up narrative.” Look, it’s both. We actually do have more residents leaving than coming, but births are helping our population continue to grow. On a side note, I wonder if we’ll see the birth rate go up in light of the pandemic. You know, will sheltering in place lead to more babies?

5) Aren’t more residents moving to Idaho?

It seems like Idaho is all the rage as a destination, so it might be surprising to see only 17,722 California residents moved to Idaho last year. But keep in mind these are 2019 stats and we could see the numbers increase in 2020. Let’s remember Idaho only has a total population of about 1.75 million people though, so having nearly eighteen thousand California residents move last year is huge because it essentially boosted the population by 1%. That’s enormous growth for Idaho, but it’s really just a drop in the bucket for California since we have over thirty nine million residents.

Thanks Meghan for letting me use the photo.

6) Less than 2% of the population moved last year

It seems like everyone and their Mom is leaving the state, but it’s really not true when considering the numbers from the U.S. Census Bureau. I’m not trying to minimize over 650,000 residents leaving last year, but that’s less than 2% of the state. It’s worth noting that over 98% of residents did not move last year.

7) Will the pandemic cause more people to move?

The stats above DO NOT reflect the pandemic because 2020 stats aren’t out yet. I’m anxious to see what new stats bring in light of so many residents being able to work from home now. By the way, here are three ways the pandemic has affected buyers.

8) Migration resources:

You can make your own visuals like mine by checking out the U.S. Census Bureau. But there is also a fun tool called the Census Flow Mapper that helps us see county to county migration (the only downfall is data only goes through 2018 so far). We can also look at migration reports from moving companies. Here’s a sampling of migration reports from Atlas Van Lines, United Van Lines, and North American Moving Services. We can also consider search queries to get clues for places people are thinking about, but I tend to put more weight on stats that show where people actually moved.

9) Why are people moving?

This is a huge question. It’s a dissertation and I won’t pretend to be qualified to answer it. But the usual suspects such as retirement, lifestyle, job change, politics, etc… are surely factors. I’d love to hear your take in the comments.

QUESTIONS FOR REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS
Who are your clients going to be over the next few years?
Who is coming to the market?
Who is leaving the market?
Who is going to be participating in the future market?
What steps do you need to take to position yourself for the future?
Where can you meet future clients?

I hope this was helpful.

Questions: Does anything surprise you about the stats above? Why are people leaving? Did I miss anything?

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Why your home isn’t worth 16% more today

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Home prices have been massive lately, but there is an asterisk. It’s easy to look at glowing stats and say, “Dude, prices are up 16%, so my house is worth 16% more.” But lofty county or regional price stats don’t always show up the same in a neighborhood. Let’s talk about this.

TWO REASONS WHY PRICES ARE SO HIGH ON PAPER:

1) The top & bottom: There have been more sales at the top of the market and fewer sales at the bottom. In fact, when comparing the past four months this year with last year, we’ve seen 20% fewer sales under $400,000 and 75% more sales above $750,000. Here is a brand new visual to show the change in various price ranges. If you’re not in Sacramento, is this happening in your area too?

The effect: Having a big change in volume at the lowest prices and a hefty change at the top has simply boosted price metrics. Thus on paper price stats are really high compared to last year, but when pulling comps in a neighborhood we don’t always see anywhere close to this sort of explosive growth. 

Here’s another way to look at the same data:

2) Larger homes: I’ve mentioned this before and I’m not trying to beat the dead horse, but during the pandemic buyers have been purchasing noticeably larger homes over the past four months. Do you see the spike? In short, having larger homes has boosted price stats, so when talking about growth it’s good to remember that part of the reason for higher prices is due to larger homes selling more often. 

The takeaway: There is no mistaking the market has increased in value quite a bit this year. I’m not saying it hasn’t. I’m just saying if we’re not careful it’s easy to get infatuated with lofty regional price stats which can sometimes blur our vision for a neighborhood market. My advice? Know why the numbers are the way they are and focus on comps instead of county or zip code stats. Moreover, don’t expect the market to be the same temperature with every location, price range, or property type.

I hope that was interesting or helpful.

Questions: Have you seen some neighborhoods where prices have risen greatly and others where growth is more subdued? Did I miss anything? Any stories to share?

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Can it count in the square footage?

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Can you include it in the square footage? I get questions like this almost every week. Is it okay to count an accessory dwelling in the living area? What about a pool house? How about a man cave or she shed? Let’s talk about this.

The straight dope: It’s tempting to lump something else in the backyard into the square footage, but that’s not appropriate per ANSI measuring standards. Basically if you have to walk outside of the house into something else that is not directly accessible to the house, we’re really dealing with something that isn’t considered to be a part of the main house. So we call that something else a studio, casita, accessory unit, pool house, she shed, or whatever. It’s just not the main house, which is why it’s not included within the square footage. 

New video: I made a video to talk through some things to watch in the fall market. Enjoy if you wish (or watch here).

An Example: If you have a house at 2,500 sq ft and an accessory unit at 1,200 sq ft, it isn’t a 3,700 sq ft house. No, this is fundamentally a 2,500 sq ft house with something else. Could it be worth the same amount as a 3,700 sq ft house? Maybe. But if we only compare this type of home with other 3,700 sq ft units, we haven’t really proved what a 2,500 sq ft house with a 1,200 sq ft accessory unit is worth. The best comps will be other homes with accessory dwellings, right? Heck, maybe it’s worth even more. But we’ll never know unless we find the right comps to tell the story of value. The quick “comps” are all 3,700 sq ft, but those might not be the best representations of value.

The problem: If a property is priced based on a lumped square footage, what happens when the appraiser gets out there and needs to use smaller-sized comps that are consistent with the actual size of the main house? Is there going to be a difference in value?

The truth: It’s not an easy pill to swallow when the appraiser doesn’t include the extra space in the square footage, but just because it doesn’t count in the square footage doesn’t mean it doesn’t count in the value.

But they’re lumped together in MLS: I know, this happens all the time. A property will be sold with a lumped square footage of the main house and the pool house. We even see this happen at times in Tax Records. Let’s remember a few things: 1) The way a property is marketed doesn’t change what a property is; 2) As a non-lawyer I wonder if there is increased liability for representing a home at a larger size than it is (hopefully there is an asterisk that clarifies what the square footage represents); 3) The appraiser is very likely going to treat the two areas differently instead of lumping them together.

My advice? Instead of quickly pulling larger “comps” right away, try to isolate features such as a pool house, accessory dwelling, or outbuilding to determine what they’re worth in addition to the value of the main house. In other words, what is the main house plus the extra thing in the backyard worth? That’s the math market equation we have to figure out and it can be done by pouring through lots of data. Finding a few examples of homes that have sold with that feature is the ideal so we can try to discover what that feature commanded in terms of value. Sometimes we might even look through years of sales too. Remember we might not use really old sales as comps, but we can certainly use them for research.

Resources:
Q&A on accessory dwellings
Tips for valuing ADUs
Using older sales is sometimes the best option
Can a basement be considered square footage?

Anyway, I hope that was interesting or helpful. Thanks for being here.

Questions: Any stories to share? What follow-up questions or insight do you have? Did I miss anything?

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