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That place where fame & real estate meet

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How does fame impact a home? Does it matter for value if a famous person lived there? What if something notorious happened at the property? Let’s talk about this and consider a few examples. Please note there are entire books written on this subject, so don’t expect an exhaustive dissertation here. Any thoughts? I’d love to hear your take in the comments.

Here are a few examples:

Breaking Bad: The house where the TV series Breaking Bad was filmed was all over the news last month because the owner is building a 6′ front yard fence to keep people out of her yard. According to Albuquerque KOB4 there is a constant stream of visitors and fans have even thrown pizzas on the roof to reenact the main character Walter White doing so in an episode. The owner is clearly not thrilled, and I can’t imagine neighbors are either unless they can somehow monetize the situation.

Kurt Cobain’s Baby House: Brandon Turner at Bigger Pockets is an investor and he accidentally bought a home where Kurt Cobain lived as a baby. The duplex was purchased as an investment without any knowledge of the lead singer of Nirvana’s connection to the property. But tenants began complaining about photos being taken of the front of the house, and that’s how the connection was discovered.

The Almost Governor’s Mansion in California: The State of California built a Governor’s mansion in the 1970s in Carmichael, which is about 10 miles from Downtown Sacramento. This mansion began construction under Governor Ronald Reagan’s leadership, but it was not completed until Jerry Brown took office. Brown actually refused to live in this house, which he dubbed “The Taj Mahal”. This home sold for 4.1M in 2004 and has 8 bedrooms, 8 bathrooms and is 11,984 sq ft. The mansion is still there today, but some of the site has been subdivided for a few custom homes. This is literally one of a few residential homes EVER in Sacramento County that sold above $4M.

Reagan House in the Fab 40s Neighborhood: Governor Ronald Reagan and his family chose not to live in the old Governor’s mansion in Downtown Sacramento back in the 70s, so they moved to East Sacramento on 45th Street to lease a home in the “Fabulous 40s” neighborhood. The home boasted over 6,000 square feet with six bedrooms and four bathrooms (according to Tax Records). The home last recorded for $1,765,000 in May 2000. Not everyone can say, “The future President used to live here when he was Governor”. Do you think that matters for value?

Here’s a look at the price point of the Reagan house. What do you see?

Homicidal Handyman House: There is a property in Oak Park where a serial killer dubbed “The Homicidal Handyman” murdered someone in the later 80s. This property was purchased last year by an investor and I’m waiting to see if it comes on the market (it has a choice location). This murder occurred about 30 years ago though, and the reality is that stigma associated with gruesome crimes fades over time. In other words, it might be a big deal for value to buy a property right after a murder, but much less of an issue if the crime occurred 30 years ago. I observed a recent murder property in the Sacramento market and in this case there was a 5-10% hit on value, though it might not have been an issue at all had the murder taken place 30 years ago instead of recently. Architectural Digest actually did a great piece on stigma recently and I was pleased to see they interviewed Jonathan Miller.

Dorothea Puente Murder House: Seven bodies were discovered at a duplex on F St in Sacramento in the late 80s compliments of Dorothea Puente. She lured victims to her “boarding” home, drugged and buried them, and then cashed their social security checks. This Victorian duplex has some charm as you can see, but it definitely has a dark history too. There was a documentary made about this house in 2015 and the owner has even given tours through the years too. This just goes to show it may be possible to monetize a famous house. Though in this case the owner has donated tour proceeds toward organizations working to alleviate homelessness (way to go).

Here’s a sales history of the Puente duplex. What do you see?

Lady Bird House: A recent movie called Lady Bird is set in Sacramento and had some filming done in the city too. Here is the front of one of the home’s shown in the movie (located in Fab 40s). This was not the main character’s dwelling, so it may not attract much of a following, though it’ll be interesting to see if people snap selfies here. For reference, the San Francisco Chronicle shared Lady Bird filming locations so fans can visit. In this case the owner probably has some bragging rights to say, “My home was in Lady Bird”, and I’d imagine any future listing would mention this fact. But will the market as a whole pay more for a house like this because it had a minor role in a movie? I’ll give you my opinion in the comments if you give me yours.
 
And here’s my Lady Bird selfie.  🙂
 
Closing thoughts: It seems like fame can either be good or bad when it comes to real estate values. If a house is famous for something gruesome, it could easily harm value (duh). But part of it depends on how long ago a crime occurred. On the other hand if a home is historically important, it could be a huge bonus for value (duh again). Yet fame can come at a cost too by increasing foot traffic and looky-loos. Would an owner have to disclose the stream of unwanted visitors to potential buyers? Could this potentially limit marketability? Could it impact rental value if there were camera flashes happening at night? Would tenants get fed up over time? These are important questions to ask. Lastly, we would be wise to not overthink a property’s value that had “15 minutes of fame” so to speak. Thus just because a home had a cameo in a movie or was previously owned by someone famous does not mean at the end of the day the market is going to pay anything more for the property. It’s true certain fans might offer more for a particular home owned by a celebrity or athlete, but what would the market as a whole pay? That’s always the bigger question. 
 

Think Like an Appraiser Class (I’m teaching): By the way, I’m doing my favorite class on Dec 7 from 9am-12pm called How to Think Like an Appraiser. We’ll talk through comp selection, making adjustments, tips for talking about value, and what to do in various scenarios. Details here.

Questions: Would you buy a house that was famous in a movie or owned by someone famous? Why or why not? Have you seen any measurable impact to value for a celebrity property? I’d love to hear your take.

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Smoking pricing crack, era charm, & blaming appraisers

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If you’re like me, you have many things racing through your mind. When it comes to real estate there is always so much to talk about, so today I wanted to mention a few topics I’ve been thinking of over the past week. Any thoughts? I’d love to hear your take. 

Smoking Pricing Crack: Did you see that listing in Waco Texas of the property that was rehabbed by Chip & JoAnna Gaines of the reality show Fixer Upper? It was purchased for $28,000 and now it’s listed for sale at $950,000. 

I’m not located in Waco obviously, but I have a feeling someone might be smoking pricing crack on this one so to speak. A quick glance at Realtor.com for listings priced at $1M in Waco shows us there are zero other 1000 sq ft 1-bedroom homes anywhere near this level. Thus let’s remember a lofty list price doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with real value. Often times prices like this are more about publicity than anything. This is true not just in Waco, but in every market in the country. However, we still have to ask, would the market pay more for a home that was rehabbed by reality stars? Or is it just the upgrades people are paying more for rather than who installed them? (Photo credit above: Realtor.com).

Era Charm: I recently appraised a house in an older neighborhood of Sacramento and ended up bringing the value in on the lower side of the competitive range. Why? Because the house lacked era charm that buyers tend to pay more for in the neighborhood.

Instead of the home having wood siding, wood flooring, and a “charming” vibe from yesteryear, it had stucco siding, cheap laminate flooring, and it stood out in a bad way because it didn’t look the same as other homes from the curb. This might sound like I’m being subjective, but the proof of a lower value was in the comps. I found a couple “vibe-less” sales and they definitely closed at a lower price tier. I also talked with the previous Listing Agent who had the home on the market before it was withdrawn. She confirmed one of the bigger issues with why the house did not sell was the lack of era charm. This is a good reminder that value doesn’t always increase just because there are newer “upgrades.” By the way, the photo above is not the house I appraised, but it’s one in Tahoe Park that sold recently from Realtor Lola Mouras (photo credit: MLS).

Blaming Appraisers: I saw an economist on Twitter recently suggest appraisers are holding back the housing market. I’m not mentioning this to call this person out or start an argument, but I wanted to pitch in some thoughts because it’s really easy to blame appraisers.   

The truth is appraisers don’t make markets move up or down. Appraisers are more like a ruler to measure the market rather than a gas pedal or brake pedal for real estate values. In other words, we’ve seen massive value increases over the past 5 years, but that’s not because appraisers have driven the market up. Some of the big value drivers have been historically low interest rates, an influx of cash investors, and a shrinking housing inventory. Or right now in Sacramento we are seeing more price reductions, so is a slowing market being caused by appraisers? Nope. The market usually begins to slow at this time of year. This is exactly why I love the multi-layered real estate cake analogy because there is a recognition the market is influenced by many different factors or “layers” so to speak. I’m not discounting the reality that massive appraisal fraud can play in a market, but only saying we have to remember there are huge forces at play that are so much bigger than what appraisers are doing.

Well, that’s what’s on my mind today. I hope everyone had an incredible 4th of July. Let’s make it a great rest of the summer now.

Questions: Would you pay more for a Chip & Jo house? How much do you think era charm really matters in real estate? Do you think appraisers are holding back the housing market? I’d love to hear your take.

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Affordability in an increasing market (or lack thereof)

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Affordability is a huge topic right now. It seems like most real estate articles are talking about how insanely “hot” the market is and how much values have increased. But as much as the public eats up sensational headlines, we all know affordability is becoming an issue too for both buyers and renters. Today I hoped we could kick around some trends in the market when it comes to affordability. Anything to add?

Wage growth and values: One of the red flags over the past five years is having so much growth in home prices and rents without much wage growth. This is why we see some buyers technically affording the market, but at times they have several different jobs to help make ends meet. We also see multiple renters shacking up together to help afford higher rents.

Looking beyond single family detached homes: As values have increased, some buyers are starting to look beyond the single family detached market to something they might be able to afford. Other options include condos, halfplexes (attached unit), or even mobile homes. These properties represent affordability to many because they are often listed toward the bottom of the price spectrum. For reference, right now there are 27 mobile homes listed for less than $50,000 in Sacramento County (located in a mobile home park). I wouldn’t say the mobile market is “on fire” by any stretch, but I have heard more chatter about them lately, which is surely a sign of the times. I know, if you buy in a trailer park you’ll have to deal with “trailer trash” comments, though for some a mobile home is a viable financial option to help pay down debt and hopefully avoid some of the crazy rent increases lately. Ultimately let’s continue to keep an eye on what’s happening at the bottom of the market.

Unrealistic buyer expectations: My sense is some prospective buyers have unrealistic expectations about the type of house they can purchase in today’s market. For instance, I heard someone recently talk about wanting something under $300,000 that was modern, newer, eco-friendly, and located in Midtown. The truth is a property like that doesn’t exist right now in that price range in Midtown. But does it exist somewhere else? That’s the real question buyers need to ask. Coming to terms with locations you can and cannot afford is not always easy, but it is necessary for those who choose to buy.

Why tiny homes mostly don’t work: We see tiny homes on HGTV and like to think they are a viable option for many buyers or even a solution to the housing shortage, but they aren’t usually attached to the land, which means they don’t qualify for traditional financing. Of course you can obtain financing for a tiny home with an RV loan or personal loan, but that’s going to be more expensive. Even if you have the cash or financing to buy a tiny home, one of the bigger problems is the cost of land. We have to remember when a market increases in value, it’s mostly the land that is becoming more valuable. And when a market declines, it’s the land more than anything that loses value. The glimmer of hope though for tiny homes is that Fresno passed an ordinance last year that allows residents to put tiny homes on their property and consider them permanent residences instead of just temporary. This means for those who cannot afford higher prices in the single family detached market, this might be an option so long as they have access to land (maybe in a family member’s backyard). By the way, there is a 360 sq ft home listed for sale right now in the Elmhurst neighborhood of Sacramento.

Storage container homes: The market seems hungry for alternative housing as long as it’s affordable, though the unfortunate thing about this type of housing is it’s not necessarily inexpensive because of the cost to build and the problem of finding affordable land. It may still be possible though to build a storage container development on tiny lots at a reduced cost compared to stick-built new construction. We have seen some storage container commercial developments come to town, but it seems pretty quiet as of yet for residential units. Anyway, this reminds us there is space in the single family market for someone to “crack the code” or think outside the box to figure out a way to bring alternative housing at a lower cost than stick-built new construction. The image below comes from a local storage container company called TAYNR.

The squeeze on supply: Some buyers really are getting priced out of the market, though the truth is we might not feel the effect of missing buyers dropping out of the game because of the reality of having a housing shortage.

Creativity: It seems like every week I’m hearing about a new 0% down or 1% down loan. Thus as affordability vanishes for some, lenders are slowly helping buyers artificially afford higher prices by making their loan products less expensive. Lenders have so much power right now to shape the future of the market by what they do in coming time. Let’s remember another “creative” aspect of the market is seeing appraisal waivers become more common. I get there is a place for that, though let’s be cautious. 

Questions: Would you ever buy a tiny home or a mobile home? What else are you seeing out there? Did I miss anything? I’d love to hear your take.

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5 things to remember about the value of landscaping

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How much value does landscaping really add? Nothing. A minor amount. A huge total. I’ve heard it all when it comes to what people think landscaping is worth. Today let’s kick around some ideas from an appraisal standpoint. Anything to add?

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5 things to remember about the value of landscaping

1) The myth of no value: I’ve heard the sentiment from some real estate professionals that landscaping does not count toward the value. My take? Landscaping is often very important to buyers – especially when it is extensive or highly expected in certain neighborhoods.

2) Front vs back: My sense is front yard landscaping does not sway buyers like the backyard does. I’m not saying it’s not important or curb appeal doesn’t matter (it does). I’m only saying the rear yard tends to make a much more significant impact on value since people spend more time there.

3) One size doesn’t fit all: The value of landscaping will vary significantly depending on the price range and neighborhood. For instance, a few years back during the height of home flipping activity, it was common to see flippers at the lower end of the market do very basic cosmetic landscaping in the front yard while doing almost nothing with the backyard (seriously, rear yards were at times just dirt or bordering on unkempt). In contrast, higher priced homes were getting full-service attention in both the front and backyard. Why? Because the market had different expectations by price range and the investors’ sense was spending the money was worth it in some neighborhoods and not others.

4) On par after huge money spent: Sometimes owners will spend good money to redo an unkempt yard only to expect a huge price premium. The problem is post-landscaping the owner is now basically on par with other homes in the neighborhood rather than in a position to command a premium. This is not easy to swallow, but it’s important to recognize in order to avoid overpricing. 

5) Dollar for dollar: While we like to get a “dollar for dollar” return on our improvement projects (at the least), that’s not always possible in real estate. So when an owner says, “I spent $125,000 in my backyard” and otherwise similar homes are selling for $700,000, can we really expect this property to be worth $825,000? That’s probably not realistic, right? Most of all though, let’s find comps with incredible landscaping and let those properties tell the story of value. That way we are letting actual market data speak to us to set the tone for what buyers have been willing to pay for similar landscaping. Isn’t that better than shooting from the hip about what landscaping may or may not be worth?

Case-in-point for an incredible backyard: While appraising in the Natomas area of Sacramento I came across a house with an incredible backyard. I ended up NOT using it as a “comp” because this property sold about 10% higher than others because of the built-in pool, custom covered patio, built-in BBQ, outdoor fireplace, and everything else in the yard. I’m not calling all of these things landscaping of course, but at the same time let’s be realistic to think buyers may lump some of these items in the same category. Anyway, at times it’s tempting to give a token $10,000 upward value adjustment when we see a nice rear yard because that’s what a mentor taught us to do, but sometimes the market is willing to pay more like 10%. In this case otherwise similar homes seemed to come in around $450,000 and the subject sold for $495,000 (there were 7 offers). There was one other sale at $485,000 and it also had a sweet backyard. As you can see on the graph, the incredible backyard seemed to really matter.

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Here is what the rear yard looked like. I could live with that. You?

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Remember, let’s find a few examples of extensive rear landscaping (or an amazing backyard) if possible so we don’t base our perception of value on only one sale. After all, what is that one sale sold too high or too low?

The Washington Post: Two weeks ago I wrote a post about the ugly side of appraisal fees, and as a result Ken Harney of The Washington Post interviewed a handful of appraisers (including me) for a piece that went live today. Ken is a nationally syndicated columnist, so the conversation that took place here is going to be moving to a much bigger level. Thank you everyone. Here is Ken’s article.

Questions: What stands out to you most about what I mentioned above? What is #6? Did I miss something?

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